This site is supported by the advertisements on it, please disable your AdBlocker so we can continue to provide you with the quality content you expect.

Welcome to Our Community

Wanting to join the rest of our members? Feel free to sign up today.

Growling tips?

Discussion in 'Opeth (Archived)' started by VampiricYouth, Dec 13, 2005.

  1. VampiricYouth

    VampiricYouth Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2005
    Messages:
    265
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I'm sure this must have been asked a hundred times, but...I'm working on a Doom Metal/Dark Ambience project called Endtime (www.myspace.com/theendtime) and the one thing that seems to be holding back the project is my voice...I just can't seem to get it to sound how I want it to, and often have to resort to simply shouting lyrics instead of growling them (eg, Grand Conjuration chorus)...Take a listen to the track Incomplete Farewell on the site to get what I'm saying...

    Are there any tips to growling? Is it simply a genetic luck of draw, or can I develop my voice into a low death metal vocal machine? Mastering wise (I use Adobe Audition) what can be done to add more punch and strength to the vocals? Should I just give up and find a vocalist?
     
  2. FRUGiHOYi

    FRUGiHOYi "Since 1981"

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2004
    Messages:
    2,216
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    The main thing is not to force too much. Death growls are not supposed to be loud, the microphone will pick up your voice and make it louder. Don't force too much air out either, or you will lose the growl. It is also good to have phlegm in your throat. I have been practicing growls a lot lately. My friend and I did a sort of death metal karaoke along with the whole Ghost Reveries album.
     
  3. Tubbs

    Tubbs Bi-weekly top album:

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2005
    Messages:
    10,525
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Sanford, Maine
    actually, when I do it it is very very loud and doesn't really affect my throat anymore. I guess after doing it so much my throat turns into leather or something!

    Or maybe it's because I'm fat. Remember, the main thing is to growl by tensing up your stomach, that is much better than annihilating your vocal cords by trying to go all through your throat.
     
  4. VampiricYouth

    VampiricYouth Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2005
    Messages:
    265
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    How do you tighten your stomach? People also talk about using their diaphragm when singing...How exactly do you do that?
     
  5. Tubbs

    Tubbs Bi-weekly top album:

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2005
    Messages:
    10,525
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Sanford, Maine
    like lifting weights. Try lifting a weight and you'll see what I mean. Also, it's when you tense up when your about to release the brown demon from the bowels of hell! as for singing, I'm not really sure what they mean by that, but I know I can sing good too. It's probably the same idea, just without the demonic roaring.
     
  6. April Etheral

    April Etheral Scottish Metalhead

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2005
    Messages:
    148
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Glasgow, Scotland
    i don't really think much about it when i'm doing it, it seems seems to happen naturally for me
    but i can't do it very loudly so it does need to be through a mic to sound decent

    But i don't do them much cos i'm a guitar player :p
    I just go widdly-widdly-wooo!
     
  7. Goober

    Goober Noob

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2004
    Messages:
    457
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    You know, like, flexing your abs. If you can do it, then you should be able to feel some tension in that area.
     
  8. April Etheral

    April Etheral Scottish Metalhead

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2005
    Messages:
    148
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Glasgow, Scotland
    cool that makes mines even deeper and more distorted ^^
    I think it does help to have a deep voice which makes me lucky cos i have probably one of the biggest adam's apples in the world which gives me a very low voice
     
  9. affinityband

    affinityband Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2005
    Messages:
    5,457
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Brackley, England
    I do it gutterally. The power of the roar comes from my stomach. and the sort of warble sound like mikes i have comes from my throat. I can scream for ages without running out of breath and it doesnt hurt my voice at all.
     
  10. Benighted Joe

    Benighted Joe Opethian

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2005
    Messages:
    544
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Stockholm, Sweden
    hey guys! thanx for all the advices. I just popped in and tried some of the 'samples - hey I almost got it working :)
     
  11. April Etheral

    April Etheral Scottish Metalhead

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2005
    Messages:
    148
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Glasgow, Scotland
    i seem to do a mixture of both...my throat does hurt a little after a long session of growling along with Deliverance ;) :p

    What i can't get is how Jason of Akercocke gets his so low, they sound really painful - as if hes shredding his throat
     
  12. Goober

    Goober Noob

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2004
    Messages:
    457
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    My growl is very similar to that of necrophagist. my voice isnt that deep, but i have a good low range
     
  13. April Etheral

    April Etheral Scottish Metalhead

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2005
    Messages:
    148
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Glasgow, Scotland
    i dunno who i could compare mines to...the low ones from Carcass would be the closest to mines

    I also love Vindsval of Blut Aus Nord's high pitched screams that seem to tear his throat apart ^^
     
  14. VampiricYouth

    VampiricYouth Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2005
    Messages:
    265
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
  15. April Etheral

    April Etheral Scottish Metalhead

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2005
    Messages:
    148
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Glasgow, Scotland
    not too bad dude
    the music doesn't really suit the deep deep growls though
    They sound more like they would be at home in a grindcore setting
     
  16. VampiricYouth

    VampiricYouth Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2005
    Messages:
    265
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    My plan for this project is mixing New and Old Katatonia with some Ambient influence.
     
  17. Goober

    Goober Noob

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2004
    Messages:
    457
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Yeah its not bad, keep practicing though, because it will eventually develope to the true sound of your growl. it should become a little louder, and more brutal.
     
  18. Koi

    Koi Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2005
    Messages:
    2,202
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Gbg sweden
    "The main thing is not to force too much. Death growls are not supposed to be loud, the microphone will pick up your voice and make it louder. Don't force too much air out either, or you will lose the growl. It is also good to have phlegm in your throat. I have been practicing growls a lot lately. My friend and I did a sort of death metal karaoke along with the whole Ghost Reveries album."

    FRUGiHOYi: Yepp
    , i think thats about right... exept that i think my growl sounds better without any phlegm, but i hate to growl with a dry throat, so for me it works best to just drink a glass of water... And phlegm is the worst thing that can happen while singing clean vocals.

    You can try to put your tongue back near the throat and make a deep and low (UUUUUUUUUUUUUH) with a very strong sort of whispering style and not use your voice at all.... Try to use your throat as little as you can while growling... it has to come from deeper than that.
     
  19. Supermoi

    Supermoi Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    327
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Quebec, Canada
    Since I learnt how to growl, I can burp like a monster.
     
  20. FRUGiHOYi

    FRUGiHOYi "Since 1981"

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2004
    Messages:
    2,216
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Copenhagen, Denmark

Share This Page