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Discussion in 'ProgPower USA' started by dtfanatic, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. dtfanatic

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    It kicked ass! And I'd do it again in a heartbeat. I think the word of mouth on this is going to be great.

    p.s. Glenn - I told Lenny Rutledge that you'd let Sanctuary play as long as they want to. Hope that was ok! :Smokedev:
     
  2. Harvester

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    No problem. :kickass:
     
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    Awesome. :worship:

    He wasn't really familiar with the festival, so I told him a little about it, and said you were generally okay with the headliner going as long as they want. As you've seen from the videos Warrel and the band are knocking it out of the park. September can't come soon enough. :kickass:
     
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    My repeated thoughts on the right forum:


    Just returned from the 70K Cruise...

    I have to hand to the promoter and his staff. Except for a late start in the main theater on Day 1 (do to the cruise ship crane operator arriving 3 hours late
    to the ship as traffic blocked his entrance because of the police-funeral motorcade procession), the entire week was nearly perfect. Trying to imagine
    the planning and logistics for such an event must have been overwhelming at times. But you would have never known it. The event, the shows, the ship
    the bands, the staff....all top notch and bands/fans were just out-of-their-minds having a blast 24/7.

    Production for the shows was at a premium. They didn't skimp on anything. The pool deck was a fully erected out-door style stage built directly in front of
    one of the two pools. The best part of that?....they drained the pool and built a standing deck-level floor from inside the empty pool and up.
    It was as if the pool never existed, providing plenty of direct standing room for all with the second level balcony over-looking the stage as well.
    Production by SIR and a talented crew kept everything running nearly perfect. Some shows ran late because of sound-checks, ect.
    But for a first time event, I am sure that 99% of all that attended would do it again without question.

    The weather was ok...no rain, food was good and the ship said they sold more booze in the first 5 hours on day 1 then they normally sell for an
    entire 5 day cruise....there was some serious alcohol consumption going on 24-7 with all night Karaoke going til 8 am.

    All of Europe, Saudi Arabia, Australia, China, Japan, and many other countries were represented. We talked to many people who have never heard
    of the great Prog-Power USA experience....many from the US. And I suspect many of them will be searching out this years PP festival now that they
    have a taste of what good promoters in the US can provide.

    Time for some sleep and to clean my liver........Cheers!
     
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    I was super skeptical about this tbh. It sounded really dumb, but the more good things I hear the more I hope they will continue it!
     
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    It had a lot of potential to be a complete disaster. I'm glad it worked out.
    Still not sure I'd be interested in going though.
     
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    Wow that's great to hear that the fest went over well. In the back of my mind I was thinking Milwaukee Metalfest but once they had the final lineup and show-times posted it really sank in that this was well planned. Its good to hear that it was well executed.

    So more details about the cruise, was it just fans or was it also open to non-metal ppl? What cruiseline was it?
     
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    Just got back too. First things first, I knew there was no way this would be run as good as ProgPower and it wasn't. Glenns personal touches and impeccable planning cannot be beaten nor matched it seems. That said THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL AND EPIC. Overall, I give the experience a 9.5 out of 10. With Glenns touches it would have been a 99 out of 10.

    The best way to put it is to say a VIP experience for every attendee for all 4 days. It was exhausting, there was simply no way to enjoy everything that was going on and frankly at the end of the day you did and saw so much you were almost glad for the respite (as the singer of Sabaton said, he is from Sweden, and 16 hours of metal a day is too much, he needs at least 2 hours of Abba, lol).

    There were 3 stages, the chorus line theater was a huge plush venue with large chairs, plenty of standing area, etc. The pool stage was outdoors and you could stand all around the stage (including above and behind and feel like you could almost touch the drummer). The small club stage was a bit short, kind of like jj kelleys (where PP1 was) but it made up for it with huge plush chairs and you could always get near the front if you wanted (there was some occassional moshing and crowd surfing at each but not much).

    All 3 stages had drink service. Want shots of tequila while you stand up front? No problem, they will bring them to you.

    The great part was the 3 stages. As soon as one band was done another was starting. So you had very little "waiting" for anything. There were usually 2 bands playing at once so you could bounce back and forth. Everything was closely located with lots of elevators so travel around the boat was effortless and smooth. It would take less then 5 minutes to get to each stage. There was no sound bleed between any of them which is amazing. And since so few filler bands were booked, if you like most metal styles like I do, it was constantly entertaining.

    Everyone was super well behaved, never saw a fight, never felt uncomfortable, never got pushed. Which was a relief from the normal tension at shows. The fans were obviously all die hards. You could strike up a conversation with anyone at anytime and they were cool. It was not unusual to be invited somewhere from someone you just met or get bought a drink from someone you were standing next to. None of the venues ever felt overly full (nor empty unless it was very very late), you could basically sit or stand where you wanted at all times. When I got tired I'd just relax back in a big plushy and jam out while the waiters brought me beers (or waters). It was also truly an international affair with fans from all over the world, as a matter of fact I would say americans to other nationalities was probably 1:1 or less.

    There was also a Karaoke bar we only went to one night but should have gone every night as it was a blast and also huge and comfortable. There were many other various bars around the boat.

    The restaurants were ok, I'm a foodie so I thought they sucked, but for the masses I'm sure they are fine. The fine dining restaurant was kind of funny, hundreds of black metal shirted long haired metal heads drinking wine and being served by tuxedoed waiters!! The nice thing is food was free, so you just order and eat all you want all the time. There was a 24 hour pizza place. The staff around the boat was generally very good. Some seemed irritated at times but overall excellent. It was fun watching some of them jam out to the music or at least pretend to. The guy that fixed up our room each day always left something funny in the room and was good spirited. Surprisingly, it was pretty quiet at bedtime (3-7am for me) so I never had trouble sleeping.

    There was a casino where you could gamble, play poker, etc. I busted the drummer of marduk in texas hold em lol

    There were many other activities but I'm not sure most people gave a hoot (for example spa, classes, etc).

    I was shocked at the number of women in general and especially good looking women. Old, young, etc. Lots of bikinis, one chic who wore a black thong the ENTIRE cruise (and was hot), at least one hottie I saw going topless (allowed in certain areas). The hot tubs by the pool stage always had some scantily clad women hanging around. I would say men to women was somewhere between 3 and 4 to 1.

    The sound at all 3 venues was excellent. Occassionally excessively loud (if its too loud with earplugs to the point where my ears are ringing with them in in its just too damn loud) and the usual occassional sound issues but overall no complaints. All the bands seemed excited and had lots of enthusiasm. Many said how much fun they were having and they hoped the promoters would do it again. I was surprised especially how good the outdoor stage sounded.

    Most bands mixed up setlists between the two days. Saxon, Blind Guardian, Iced Earth, Finntroll and many others played almost completely different sets which was awesome. Also most bands seemed to give the fans "what they want" which was the best material which isn't always necessarily the newest. For example I think for 2 days Iced Earth played 2 songs after Something Wicked. Blind Guardian the same, only 1 or 2 songs after Nightfall. Sorry I thought Sanctuary was disappointing, and I love both Nevermore and Sanctuary but I just didn't think Warrels voice is suited for it anymore. It was a relief go to upstairs and hear Simone after I had enough of that. The singer from Unleashed didn't show up so kudos for still coming but did not enjoy their performance at all. I thought Iced Earth stole the entire show with two absolutely top notch performances. Getting Barlowe back was probably the best thing Shaffer has ever done.

    Band members were constantly milling around, I saw Jon Shaffer, Jeff Loomis, Barlowe, Thomas(sp?) from BG, Alex Skolnick for example about 25 different times. They were hanging out all week. Same goes for many other band members and as long as you waited for a lull in the conversation they seemed to be quite amenable to taking pics. Some like Hansi, I never saw at all.


    Bad things:

    Ok this was a CRUISE. Which was had its charm, but at times it was uncomfortable. The room was a closet and the shower, well hell I have no idea how some people even fit in that thing. It was tiny (but I never smelled BO so I guess people used the pool or something). The bed was a freaking stone slab. The boat rocked back and forth a LOT. Even the staff said it was unusual to be so rocky and this did make for some interesting stumbling around and some disorientation. I never got sick or saw anyone get sick but it was generally unsettling (and a lot of band members made jokes about it). The outdoor deck was VERY windy at times and on the colder side. Somehow though at times these "challenges" seemed appropriate when listening to metal. I have no idea what they would have done if it would have really rained on the outdoor stage since it didn't have a roof. That all said, most of these things seemed a bit "unusual" so they may not happen in the future.

    Check in check out was a pain, but not as bad as getting on or off a plane.

    The food like I said above, if your a foodie, was about a 4 out of 10. No matter where you ate. If you are not picky, you would probably like it.

    The MERCH area was what pissed me off absolutely the most. I brought a WAD Of money for merch and never got anything. The thing was open the oddest hours (10:30 to 1:30 the last day, seriously!!??? I wasn't even up by then) and the one time I was over there when it was open I waited in line 30 minutes and gave up when it was clear there was another hour to wait thinking I'd hit it again the next day). That was about the dumbest thing I've EVER seen. Still pissed I don't have any merch to show from this (if anyone reading this has any extra shirts from any bands with dates or mention of 70000 on them please contact me!!).

    A LOT of the bands seemed to end their sets early or start late. Many shows started 15 minutes late and this seemed to include the usual "we have cut a song but will make it up tomorrow." Now there was so much music to be had you honestly didn't really care if a band played 1 hour 10 minutes instead of 1 hour 30 or 45 instead of 60. But some more consistency in the schedule would be nice. I know this sort of thing must be ridiculously daunting but I know it can be done better.

    Improvements that need to be made:

    Better time management of bands schedules (see above)
    Merch at least 10 hours a day and get a bigger room for gods sake!!!
    More and better information provided in a more timely manner ahead of the cruise (they need a spokes person)
    Pre party !!
    Hire Glenn as a consultant lol
    More unique merch and personalized touches

    Overall the entire experience was amazing. What went into this event must be truly daunting and for a first time especially I can't give them enough respect. You felt like you were in metal heaven for 4 days and I think everyone was a little depressed the last day. I'm proud I was able to be part of this historical event. Everyone who attended (bands and fans) took a "gamble" and it paid off in a big way I think. I have no doubt that this will become absolutely LEGENDARY and that it will sell out easily every single year forward if similar quailty bands are booked. Nothing will ever beat ProgPower 1-3 for me but this was very close.

    Aaron
     
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    Great write up Aaron! Seems like it was a good time. One thing that has me scratching my head was the part of Johnny from Unleashed not showing up. He *never* showed up for the cruise or for their set? Did they play as a 3 piece with no bass? Any idea what happened? I'm a huge fan of Unleashed and this seems really strange.
    Anyway, glad you had a good time.
     
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    Thanks for the review, man.. I was curious.
     
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    Just curious about the cost and what port did this go out of?
     
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    The MERCH area was what pissed me off absolutely the most. I brought a WAD Of money for merch and never got anything. The thing was open the oddest hours (10:30 to 1:30 the last day, seriously!!??? I wasn't even up by then) and the one time I was over there when it was open I waited in line 30 minutes and gave up when it was clear there was another hour to wait thinking I'd hit it again the next day). That was about the dumbest thing I've EVER seen. Still pissed I don't have any merch to show from this (if anyone reading this has any extra shirts from any bands with dates or mention of 70000 on them please contact me!!).


    My pal who went told me that the bands were only allowed to bring 2 peices of merch so i guess the selection would of been small..He did get me a cool Exodus Booze Cruise shirt....He basically said the same thing u said..total heaven for 5 days..and would go again in a heart beat..
     
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    Thanks for the review!
     
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    This cruise looks like it was pretty awesome. Gonna try to make it if there is another next year.


    Sabaton singer crowd surfing all the way into the pool!
     
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    I hear vocals when this dude is body surfing, so who's singing on the stage during this time?
     
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    Just about every power metal band I know utilizes the guitar players and bass players as backing vocalists. Sometimes even drummers.
     
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    Pretty obviously not the lead singer. They also made use of backup vox when they played at PPUSA, so it very likely wasn't prerecorded, if that's what you're paranoid about.
     
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    there is a great band by band review at metalrules.com. Sounds like a great time.
     
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    He never showed up at all. Only thing I heard is something about his kid not being old enough to go on the cruise? One of their guitarists must have played bass and he sang as well. They had a couple guest vocalists for some songs. They seemed to play a lot of older material (including "the one insane" which they said they hadn't played in many years).

    The cruise went out of port of miami. It was around $1000 each for a 2 person room. A little cheaper if you bring 4 people.

    Aaron
     

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