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I hate grunge.

Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by Nick1975, Mar 31, 2018.

  1. mountbrocken

    mountbrocken New Metal Member

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    I agree one hundred percent! I would also add that the reason it has died, and why no one under 23 listens to metal and it is NOT AT ALL relevant to high school age kids is marketing and the record industry like you said. However, I would suggest there are a couple of reasons why the record industry has ignored rock and metal. For one, a lot of the older rap artists, who were not musicians but producers, used their fortunes to start entertainment companies that served as the backbone for the record industry. Of course, they were only signing and supporting rap artists, since that is what they liked. And it is really easy to record and support a rap artist as opposed to a band that uses instruments, are more than one person, etc.

    Also, with the rise of PC (political correctness), which was popular with the grunge artists, which were nothing more than throwbacks from the alternative scene in the 80s, fully supported this and watched what they said on their albums. This of course is not popular with the youth. They want something extreme. And since Anal Cunt or Cannibal Corpse are not marketable on that level, the only groups that were producing non PC lyrics were rappers. I think this had a lot to do with it as well. And as you said, rock got increasingly feminine due to the influx of alternative rockers that eclipsed the old school rough and tough white guy that smoke and drank and fought and said what he wanted. The PC culture wanted a weak, compliant white guy and not one that was rough and tough. But it was OK to be this way in the rap community, which was a double standard. They got on GnR for saying faggot, but say nothing when rappers say it over and over.

    Personally, I think we need rock of this sort to come back. I just dont see how. The rap cliche of getting money, materialism, bullying, gangster shit seems to be the ONLY popular trope in teen life. When I grew up, there were MANY sorts. There were hip hop types, pop types, stoners and hoods or metalheads, and so forth. Now, because of the recent phenomenon in music, there is ONLY ONE. People say I am crazy when I say this but I challenge them by looking at the top 100 NOW and comparing it to just 10 and especially 20 years ago when it was well stocked with rock bands. The only rock bands on there now are like Twenty One Pilots or some shit, which are feminine alternative shit. I work in the public school system and trust me, that is ALL the kids listen to. It is sickening. And I don't mind newer music. I got into the hardcore scene in the middle 2000s and it was fun. But even that is gone. The youth are NOT listening to any other style. I think this is dangerous. We need a flavor of angst and aggression and evil, as depicted in metal, in society, to keep a balance. If everyone is all hip hop, then the natural tendency to want to bang one's head or mosh or whatever will manifest itself in less constructive ways. Dancing around to hip hop will not fulfill the lust for anger and aggression that metal and metal-like genres offer. I hope someone comes out with maybe an electronic music version of metal, with lyrics of dark, evil themes, heavy straight forward drums (and not some groove bass shit), and something that ISNT hip hop oriented. If not, I pity the future of the youth without that choice and variety....
     
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    Wow, that alt had been active since August last year & is only just getting used.
     
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    CiG Deformed Urban Pustule

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    Onder Gegen unendlich

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    Our god fearing whack job couldn't put that many words on a page without blaming Muslims at least once, or repeating God fifteen times.
     
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    Terasophe Into Valeria

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    tl;dr dick stuck in a jar.
     
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    Should that have gone in the "what are you doing at this moment" thread? :p
     
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    CiG Deformed Urban Pustule

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    Didn't you know that hip hop is the Trojan horse for radical Islam to destroy the west?
     
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    I did miss a few of Fezz's lessons
     
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    hahaha
     
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    Loving this thread, I think this is a very interesting discussion [​IMG]
     
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    pix or it didn't happen
     
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    so rap replaced hair metal
    uuhhh
    could we go back to hair metal please??
     
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    Tbf rap & hair metal kinda had their respective hey-days at the same time.
     
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    TechnicalBarbarity -TheNightsBane-

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    Why is it that this is the only thread Blurry posts in? Hmmmmmm
     
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    Are you saying Blurry is Nick?
     
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    To be fair our resident toe sucker comments in EVERY fucking thread. He's knowledgeable on everything from movies to women, from metal to religion. He's just like a Rhodes Scholar only a lot dumber.
     
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    Looks like Blurry finally got rid of his signatures. His posts no longer take up half a page.
     
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    You must have sig turned off, as opposed to turning your CIG on, because I see them
     

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