Okay so I think that The Gathering are a good band but this is not really about them. It is not not about them either. How To Measure A Planet is quite something, but it's Mandylion that rules supreme. It sounds like autumn leaves falling through Marshall Staxxx (of Sadness). But to break it down bluntly, it has the following items: 1) stellar female vocals 2) really fuckin' metal riffs I need some other albums that fall into those two categories. I don't want Arch Enemy, I don't want some nu-metal thing, I want some REAL metal with some GOOD female vocals. It doesn't have to match the majestic death/doom/goth vibes of Mandylion, but that is the high water mark I seek. Or anything along the lines of Acid King, Ludicra, Theatre of Tragedy, Murkrat, etc. Thank you for your support.