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I thought there was already a thread for recording Bass Guitar.

Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by ffaudio, Aug 23, 2007.

  1. TheDude

    TheDude Jocke Skog

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    All those mics above are the "Standard" mics for bass cabs. They should all work that is =)
     
  2. doc_backmask

    doc_backmask Member

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    Alright, resurrect the old thread!!! (Yeah, I didn't want to waste space with a new one).

    I was listening to DT's Fiction again and I was really impressed with the tone on the entire album. So I started messing around with my BDDI and I think I found a good idea. I pulled the treble down, the bass up, the drive up, and got some good grind. I also pulled the treble down out of the bass, mids about flat, and boosted the bass. The grind sound is great and I really like it. The low end is nice and warm, too. My problem is in clarity. I can't get great note distinction. I tried to use the DI track from the bass to reinforce, but it sounds too hollow to my ears. Anybody else ever try to get good mid grind and a nice firm low-end? If you need samples, I can post some tonight, but I was hoping for general approaches/strategies.
     
  3. Genius Gone Insane

    Genius Gone Insane http://www.¯\(°_o)/¯.com

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    Love the new arch enemy bass tone!
     
  4. JBroll

    JBroll I MIX WITH PHYSICS!!!!

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    Maybe compress high mids around 1k or so and boost them a little? I guess another idea would be to sweep a narrow bell around and see what region seems to help the most with distinction and, along with boosting it, cutting the octave below it a little... not sure. I usually leave the treble and mids high on whatever I have distorting the tone and then roll off highs with a shelf so that it 'sits'... I seem to think 'mids' when I hear the Fiction growl.

    Jeff
     
  5. doc_backmask

    doc_backmask Member

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    Yeah, I'm spending a little more time with it tonight. Damn its just killing me. The way "Nothing to no one" starts is just great. I will find it (or at least one I like just as much).

    BTW, heard anything about moving out to Ca yet, Jeff?
     
  6. JBroll

    JBroll I MIX WITH PHYSICS!!!!

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    I thought the same thing when I heard it, I've been going for that same growl.

    The move isn't happening anytime soon, it's a possibility for the Ph. D. (year and a half, two years down from here) but not for right now.

    Jeff
     
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    Between The Buried And Me - Colors has great bass.
     
  8. Sloan

    Sloan Sounds like shit!

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    Do any of you guys have tips on reducing noise when heavily compressing bass?
    I always get a lot of skanky noise or artifacts or whatever.

    It's not too noticable when everything is playing, but when it's just bass, it's pretty bothersome.
     
  9. abyssofdreams

    abyssofdreams knows what you think.

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    samples?
    maybe slower attack/release?
     
  10. Sickan

    Sickan ¯\(°_o)/¯

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    I seems you really have a clue about what you're talking about here, could you possibly post some screenshots or even save the banks and upload them to the ftp?

    Sickan
     
  11. Baron of Norsworthy

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    Forum members Think great basses !!!!

    Would anyone like to recommend a great Bass amp????

    For the direct signal you would probably want to consider a Valve Preamp, which models do member use????
     
  12. G-Wrath

    G-Wrath New Metal Member

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    The valve/solid state thing doesn't apply for bass amps the same way it does for guitar. And by that I mean valve does not mean better. A lot of bass amps are just solid state or only have a valve pre anyway.

    I personally have always preferred solid state amps. I own a SS Galien Krueger 400RB. Not really that high powered for a bass amp (240w) but pretty killer.

    I think the valve sound suits pick players better though, or for heavily distorted bass.
     
  13. JBroll

    JBroll I MIX WITH PHYSICS!!!!

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    The best three suggestions I've gotten from this forum are the SansAmp BDDI, one of the MXR pedals (I believe it's the M80, not sure though), and the ProCo RAT.

    Fuck TOOBZ. Don't turn down a good Ampeg, but solid-state bass amps are amazing and even the lightbulb nutjobs around here will go for solid-state over tube pretty often - or just go right into the console and not worry about amps.

    Jeff
     
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    MARSHALL VBA 400 ,
    ampeg svt classic ,
    or sansamp.
    the ampeg solid states are pretty lame
     
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    Ampeg SVT3Pro - tube pre, mosfet power. Great amp, tons of tones, I've been able to dial whatever I want on it, and I have even been able to dial the worst tone I've ever heard (yes, I always try this with amps, the worse you can make it, the more dynamic it may be).
     
  16. Baron of Norsworthy

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    I did n't mention Tube V solid state.
    My previouse post stated direct signal to a valve line preamp not guitar head!!
     
  17. JBroll

    JBroll I MIX WITH PHYSICS!!!!

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    It's either tube or not tube, and for direct you have precisely two options - valve and solid state. You got an amp recommendation and a correction about 'probably want to consider a Valve Preamp', which could be taken to mean either something that is transparent and boosts the signal or something that also has an EQ and possibly compression and gain.

    And it would help A LOT if your posts didn't read like a Russian bot had written them and then Babel-fished them into English. Especially the odd capitalization.

    Jeff
     
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    +1
     
  19. noarin

    noarin Producer / Engineer

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    I recently started using CurveEQ to get me in the ballpark of where to look; captured some bass clips from Behindert's bass tone (which I think is pretty killer) and loaded those curves on my own bass tracks.. works pretty well!
     
  20. ahjteam

    ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen

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    I asked from the Karnivool bassist about his basstone on their debut album and got a reply, thought some of you might be interested. For the recordings of Themata, they used guitars tuned in the very awkward tuning of B-F#-B-G-B-E, which is basically a hybrid tuning of Dropped-B (low strings) and Standard E (high strings). Apparently something else for bass, as he said that he uptuned (instead of downtuning it) the D-string to E.

     

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