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Iconoclast: News/Info Thread

Discussion in 'Symphony X (Unofficial)' started by proulxski, Feb 25, 2011.

  1. PurpleDink

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    No, no it isnt. Listen to the song. This isnt the proper pronunciation for common American speech but vocalists like Hetfield and Allen do it to sound more agressive.

    u mad bro?
     
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    That was not ever my point. What I care about are words that end with ders pronounced DAZ. That sounds gangster. And it is NOT Russ' trying to sound dumb, he surely doesn't realize it. What I am telling you right now is that anything that you say as DAZ instead of DERZ sounds retarded. Americans do NOT speak like that unless they are rapping or trying to sound "cool".

    Adjusting pronunciation to fit the song and make smooth transitions is one thing, Russ' crap job on Serpents Kiss is another.
     
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    Hahaha I wonder what Russel would think if he read this thread... ''Anal assholes, complaining about every little thing.''
     
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    That's starting to sound almost delusional. Maybe he just doesn't want to sound like a country singer? You can stop trolling now, this thread has been way offtopic for quite a few pages. Useless rage needs to stop now, we already heard your opinion.

    There's already been several explanations about this subject which make more sense than you ever will. You can also go and get a personality of your own because repeating everything you hear in Hello Kitty Online doesn't really make you seem any smarter.
     
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    This is indeed one of the dumbest things I've seen discussed in almost a full page of a thread...
     
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    I had a fiddle with this myself. For my accent, I'd always pronounce it as riderS, because the S is a shorter and softer sound than the Z. For me to say riderZ it comes out like riderSah, where that 'ah' is short and subtle but adds an unwanted sibilance. If I try to sing it loud and dramatically it still comes out as riDERS rather than riDAHS because of the way the stress point changes - ride-ders (where the emphasis is almost dead on the 'd' in between the two syllables) compared to ri-dahs. The first sounds correct, the second does not.

    I'm not sure what my point is exactly. The topic just made me curious.
     
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    I don't like the new chip on Romeo's guitar. It sucks!

    Discuss.

    /sarcasm
     
  8. Detective Clarence Beauregard

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    It makes his solos sound different, I don't like it either!!!
     
  9. WhoFooldU

    WhoFooldU Fool for a Lifetime

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    It's a sticker designed to look like a chip. ;)
     
  10. Postulate

    Postulate Have a nice day! :)

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    Welp...I'm done.
     
  11. Postulate

    Postulate Have a nice day! :)

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    Time for a totally off-topic aside on linguistics - my favorite.

    It's interesting the intuitions we have about our speech production - if you're a native speaker of English, I would be willing to bet a large sum of money that, if you put it up to a spectrogram test, the acoustic properties of the final sound would more resemble 'z' than 's'. But it is difficult to tell, because the difference between z and s is only when our vocal folds stop vibrating, and that happens somewhere after the second to last sound - it's vague and too brief (span of milliseconds) to introspect on properly.

    Just to illustrate the difference, you can pronounce 'hers' and 'hearse' side by side - that will make it more obvious. The final sound in 'hers' is the same one in 'riders'
     
  12. Prismatic Sphere

    Prismatic Sphere We Carouse

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    I've been on this forum for nearly a decade. And this is absolutely the stupidest thing discussed that I have ever seen on here(outside of politics).
     
  13. PurpleDink

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    /shoots kitten

    Oh im sorry did i break your concentration? Please. Continue.

    Oh you were finished. Well allow me to retort.:popcorn:

    Way to only respond to only the last 3 words.

    Do i even need to go into how the bolded section is poorly worded? How does one not make sense? One can say something that doesnt make sense but how does a human being not make sense? Im confused. Maybe you should think of something to actually counter my point rather than assuming i play Hello Kitty, which is even more commical and cliche than "u mad bro."

    And Serpents Kiss is awesome. If you cant appreciate how bands choose different approaches to their song writing over time then you must be so narrow minded that i wonder how oxygen is still entering your brain. This doesnt mean you have to like the PL era, but to say its bad and not well done is a bunch of doggy doodoo. You do not deserve to listen to good music with your over critical ways of thinking, because as we all know, critics are like castrated men at a porn studio. They think they know how and what it should be done, but they cant do it themselves.

    Btw: Your mad
    :wave:
     
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    Guys be cool.

    Praise, criticize, discuss, whine, whatever. Just keep the retarded fighting to youtube. It's incredibly boring.
     
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    The website is updated (not the news).
     
  16. keeperxiii

    keeperxiii Awakening...

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    Ghost in the Shell much? :p

    As for the titles:

    CD 1:
    01. Iconoclast
    02. The End Of Innocence
    03. Dehumanized
    04. Bastards Of The Machine -> lol
    05. Heretic
    06. Children Of A Faceless God - :/:/:/
    07. When All Is Lost

    CD 2:
    01. Electric Messiah
    02. Prometheus (I Am Alive) - great title this one, reminds me of Ridley Scottm hmm
    03. Light Up The Night
    04. The Lords Of Chaos
    05. Reign In Madness
     
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    Maybe you should read atleast some of the posts before you start trolling. I've been defending the band all along and considered the pronunciation rage extremely dumb. I like PL.

    Your post was utter dribble and the "u mad" was like a cherry on the top. Why would I put any more effort to replying? Also, "commical" is typed all wrong.

    This. And as it seems, it's partly due to misunderstandings because people just don't seem to have the interest to read the thread before replying. Atleast I won't be saving words much forum policing if trolls aren't moderated fast. These guys could just make rage threads of their own if they absolutely need to bitch about everything.
     
  18. PurpleDink

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    Invadaz. light slayaz. come down and fiend the betrayaz!

    The last part except the umad was directed to the PL bashers. Should have made that more clear, my b.

    How is using examples like Hetfields style to explain the approach of singers for exaggerated pronunciation in order to justify Russels constant use of AZ dribble? I find it pretty sensible. Disagree, i dare you. /grrrrrr
     
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  20. PurpleDink

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    This^

    Except that song sucks.

    The live videos of him singing fade to black are pretty funny. Durring the goodbye part before the song he just starts rambling.

    Goodbah...yeah...uhh..bahh
     

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