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I'm having trouble switching from fingerpicking to normal picking in Deliverance

Discussion in 'Opeth (Archived)' started by ~Derek~, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. ~Derek~

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    I'm having trouble making the fast transition from fingerpicking in the Opeth song Deliverance to the regularly picked chords, my pick can't get from my hand to a normal position in time, and i'm having trouble deciding how to go about holding the pick while I fingerpick. What are your suggestions? It's the first acoustic part near the 4-5 minute part of the song I'm having trouble with.
     
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    What are you currently doing with the pick?
     
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    Lateralus14 New Metal Member

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    There's definitely a better way to do it but on a simple part like that I just clutch the pick in my folded up little index finger and hit both the E on the 6th string and the A on the 4th string with my thumb, using my middle finger and ring finger to hit the part with two notes. Not the most efficient way if the finger picking part ever gets challenging, but as long as you can pull that off, it puts the pick in a really easy spot.
     
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    You could always stick it to your guitar with Blutac :D
     
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    Lateralus14 New Metal Member

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    I rest my pick on my guitar all the time, it just takes an extra second to pick up that way though.
     
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    All the big stars have pickholders in their microphone-stands.
     
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    Blutac is more professional though :p
     
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    Develop a way of doing it.

    or maybe just practice the parts well enough.
     
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    The pick gets too far in my hand to pull it off and instantly play.
     
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    Hybrid picking
     
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    John 5's hybrid picking is just outstanding
     
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    xDetonatorx Experimental Guitarist.

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    I'm not sure which part of the song you're talking about, but I'm pretty sure there is no finger picking at all in Deliverance.
     
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    I've seen Opeth live twice and Mike always puts the pick in his mouth during the fingerpicking parts.


    That's kind of dangerous, though. Hybrid picking or holding the pick between your first and second fingers (as I do) would be better. The latter makes fingerpicking a bit more difficult, but with practice you should be fine.
     
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    This.

    Everyone else = fail.
     
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    just play it with the pick my friend. so much easier that way, and yea i'm pretty sure thats how its played live, especially because peter plays that part and he never really finger picked when he didn't have to.
     
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    The voice of reason.
     
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    What about the part after the second solo? Alternate picked or finger picked?
     
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    Good question because I'll be learning that soon, I'm learning the second solo now.
     
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    Well I learned the whole song and the first acoustic part is easy with pick or fingers (with that specific part I would think it would make most sense to pick it live but to finger pick it on a recording), but the second acoustic part is pretty tough without finger picking. Guess its not really any harder than alternate picking Ghost of Perdition's part, which Peter definitely did.
     
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    xDetonatorx Experimental Guitarist.

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    It's a mix of strumming and a technique called Economy picking.
     

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