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Impossible to adjust Reamp levels

Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by H-evolve, May 28, 2016.

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  1. H-evolve

    H-evolve Member

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    Wanted to thank you again for that tip. Tried it this weekend extensively and it does work. And I was able to find some interesting things...

    Since I was lacking a lot of dB, I first tried to push the hardware output all the way to +12. At that level, the clean original DI guitars, after being reamped with that +12, starts to be distorted. I figured out that it starts to distort the sound above +9. But my surprise was when I saw that, even at +12, my fadder was indicating a Reamped peak that was still slightly lower than my original DI. So I zoomed in on the two signals and the Reamped one was actually showing a signal that was obviously bigger than the original DI. When using +9 hardware output, it was roughly of the same size...

    So I guess my fadder was perhaps not indicated the good information between peak or RMS or whatever... I don't know.

    In the end, I hear a little bit of a tone difference. My guitar pick-ups are slightly brighter, with the low end being tighter. The reamped signal was a small bit more muddy I'd say... not as bright or tight. Could be a lot of things... after all the chain is different (1st chain = pickup - TS9 - ENGL Invader - ENGL XXL - SM57 versus 2nd chain = KA6 Output at +9, ProRMP maximum level - TS9 - ENGL Invader - ENGL XXL - SM57).

    I want to experiment with a clean boost before the TS9, using something like a XP Booster or Mini Katana. Just to hear the difference if I don't push the hardware output to +9. Maybe leave it at 0 and see how it sounds like with the clean boost.
     
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    No problem man, that's what a forum is supposed to be, help for guys like us, right???

    There are a lot of variables for re-amping, & for my setup/gear the +6db seems to work good enough. I do hear a slight difference when I'm plugged straight into my amp, but only guys like us (and not all of us either...lol) would even notice, so I stopped worrying with it. That said, I'll most likely try the +9db sometime today just to see if it improves my tone any. I recently got a new amp/cab, & while it sounds pretty good, I'm always looking to improve...

    The level we all record at could be very different too, I've downloaded di's that were close to "0" 99% of the time, & never clipped (I'm assuming whoever recorded 'em used a limiter, not sure though). I try to have my di's peak around -6db so they never clip in the daw, but that's just me, I'm sure everybody has a different way they like to do this, & whatever works IMO, is the way to go...
     
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    Heabow More cowbell!

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    +1 It's just what I did. I'll never go back!
     
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    Well, though I'd like to follow your advice, the market for used recording gear isn't that hot where I'm from. So I don't think I'd be able to easily sell it.

    The palmer is more than twice the price of the ProRMP, on top of it (again, that is from what I was able to find in Canada). But thanks for your advice. I'm taking good note of that brand (which I didn't know) and when I'll want to upgrade, I'll surely consider the Palmer.
     
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