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Discussion in 'Opeth (Archived)' started by bball_1523, Apr 20, 2007.
is Opeth against bootlegs of songs and concert videos?
probably not, mike is pretty chill
To be honest, I am a collector myself and I've always had an interest in bootlegs by certain bands, like Sabbath and Priest. I support live/concert bootlegs while I'm against shirt bootlegging as well as bootlegs of our "real" records...I'm inconsistent on the matter so I guess overall I'd say I'm for it. I'm alright with trades but the commerce leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. If somebody was selling Opeth bootlegs as a business I'd certainly not like it, but as for trades and I'm all for it.
It has lost it's original excitement factor in these days of filesharing and all that stuff. When I was younger you went into special record stores and they had "unofficial" Lp records behind the counter. They were always very expensive, ugly and bad sounding...but also rare as hell! I never really bought any.
Great to hear THE MAN himself. Talking about subject, I don't like bootlegs because they usually are very bad sounding. I prefer original live or studio records.
I've always wondered if there was Opeth trading circles anwhere, but I've never found one. I remember being told that the guys were dead against people recording their shows, so I gave up on that.
Still trade Maiden and DT shows occasionally now, but not as much as I used to.
I've noticed the cooler bands don't care about bootlegs too much because I think they know real fans with always buy cd's, dvd's and of course concert tickets. The band Clutch has a really interesting trading circle, those are some people who love to trade. The only bootleg I have of Opeth is at the Fillmore if SF two years ago, the video came out good but the audio came out distorted and sounds like someoe blowin' ass because of the cheap camcorder microphones. While I was pre loading and setting up to record before Opeth played I saw Mike and Peter walking about near the front of the venue and I was going to ask if they could wave to the camera, but i got chicken shit and thought that would be really gay and maybe get pissed im running around with a video camera.
cool, thanks for answering Mikael!
this has got to be the only thread MA has responded to that hasnt shot up to 5 pages
Tis only 2 days old...
Great reply from Mike.
In the days of the deadhead legions, "The Grateful Dead" allowed fans to plug their recorders straight into the FOH mixer for bootlegging...
These days what with the greed of some people and the super highway transmission of electronic data this is now a nono, imho.
Youtube rocks with most of the Opeth content I have seen.
Still, no substitute for "Being There" at an Opeth gig.
You just have to keep looking. I've taped* Opeth six times with varying degrees of success. Raleigh (Feb. 15, 2006) turned out the best. I have a similar recording from Budapest in '05 that's just as good. So that's 2 out of ~20 Opeth recordings I have that are above average. 10% sounds about right.
*-Taping is good. Bootlegging is bad. Watch your language, people.
I have a few taped shows of Opeth that all sound close to amazing.
2003/07/18 - Providence, RI
2004/03/06 - Athens, Greece
2005/10/30 - Worchester, MA (Decent, a little bit bass-heavy)
2005/12/18 - Budapest, Hungary (Dropouts during Deliverance however)
2006/02/15 - Raleigh, NC (Possibly your taping, neognosis)
2006/03/14 - Los Angeles, CA (Chronology)
Then again, I have a couple shows (2001 ones mainly) that are pretty bad quality, so it's all about the FOH sound/resonance in the venue and the taper's gear basically - you just gotta look for the right shows.
Thanks for that Raleigh recording. Loved it.
no matter how rare it is, if it sounds like shit then i wont waste the time. im very picky about the sound...
probably don't know he actually posted in here
I've also taped 3 Opeth shows myself. 2 at Budapest (2005-aug-15; 2005-dec-18), the 3rd one at MetalCamp Tolmin (2006-jul-23)...
Some of you may heard one of them... Pretty good recordings, I think.
To tell you the truth being at an Opeth show, listening their music live is always fantastic. But taping it... That feels like an adrenaline bomb...
I'm also a collector (vinyl, tape, CD), so it's a good thing to put a new item (even if it is a bootleg) to the collection...
I'm always making some coverart for the recordings.
I think the whole thing (recording + artwork) is complete this way...
Anyway... To sell a bootleg, make personal profit from it is one of the ugliest thing on earth...
Bootlegs are free for everyone...
Gogsi, were you the one who taped the 2005-dec-18 show with the DAT dropouts during Deliverance? If so, nice taping man, other that those drop outs (which are understandable.) A good clean sound, one of the best metal bootlegs I've heard since collecting them.