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Kemper Blind Test - Can you tell the difference?

Discussion in 'Backline' started by Trevoire520, Oct 15, 2013.

  1. Trevoire520

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    Kemper vs my JCA50, try and guess which is which...

     
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    Red is kemp for me... though without the visual aid it would have been very difficult to hear the difference.
    Can you share the profile? sounds very nice!
     
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    No clue which is which. They do sound different though. Red sounds tighter to me, so my best guess would be it's the kemper :D
     
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    Red is more dynamic and less smeary.
    The transients of the pick attack jump more.
    Red also has a wider stereo image .
    They do sound close though but it is obvious to me where the transitions are.
    I listened with my eyes closed and the mouse over the pause button and clicked when I heard a change and got them all no problem.

    I would certainly hope (and am pretty sure) that red is the real amp.
    The wider stereo image would lead me to believe that it is not based on the same "capture" of the amp on both sides.
    I think that in a case like this the profile could be used for a definite section of song but doesn't work mid riff but I could still hear the differences in sound during the alternate red/yellow stop start riffs.

    If I am wrong I will have to rethink my opinion on the Kemper.
     
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    red = kemper
     
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    Red = real amp
     
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    Red sounded better to my ears. Felt more ready, clearer more defined and wider. I think that one is the kemper, cause in another blind test the kemper was a tad bit brighter and that was the one i preferred last time,
     
  8. Genius Gone Insane

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    real amp = kemper
     
  9. FF666

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    Red - amp
    Yellow - Behringer V Amp + Steinberg Freefilter = Kemper
     
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    They do sound different and there is more of a difference than in some comparisons I've heard (e.g. Lasse's Recto one). I prefer red in this instrumental track as far as a metal guitar tone goes, it is more immediately punchy whereas yellow sits back a bit more. With vocals on I might prefer yellow, but also might at that point not really tell much of a difference either. I reckon yellow might be the real amp but I'm prepared to be wrong.
     
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    There is a difference when you watch at the video when listening, but I have no idea which is which. I guess I got Kempered :)
     
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    I think:

    Red - JCA
    Yellow - Kemper

    Very close tho. Whichever the Kemper is, it's very convincing and I wouldn't pick it as "fake" in a mix.
     
  13. Trevoire520

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    5 people think red is the Kemper
    4 people think yellow is the Kemper

    Close enough to a 50/50 split I think.

    I guess I'll tell...






    The Kemper is RED!
     
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    So goodbye real amps then, RED sounded better by far..
     
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    Test 2! 6505+ (Longer spent on refining the profile)
     
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    yup...

    didn't want to say which one is which, because I seriously couldn't tell, but I know that i liked red a lot better.
     
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    First listen, no clue.

    Second listen I'm guessing blue is the real amp.

    I feel it is so close that without knowing it was an A/B shootout and without having a visual aid I would not even notice things were changing.

    Cheers for doing this Trev.
     
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    blue = kemper
     
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    to short man, could you post a clip with more riffing, the pauses are a bit confusing.
     
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    Can't today, heading out to a gig, might get a chance to do another tomorrow
     

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