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Lord of the Rings Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'GMD Social Forum' started by Matt, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. Carpe Mortem

    Carpe Mortem Benevolently Batshit

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    I've been toying with the idea of putting money into The Strategy Battle Game, I've seen it at our local tabletop haunt. Never see anyone playing though. It seems a lot cheaper than 40k overall, with hella less pieces, so I'm thinkin everyone who won't do Warhammer due to it being fuckin expensive might give that a try.

    Anyone ever play? Cool? System okay?
     
  2. Master_Yoda77

    Master_Yoda77 True Doom

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    I have no idea what you are talking about.
     
  3. Carpe Mortem

    Carpe Mortem Benevolently Batshit

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    It's a miniatures-based Lord of the Rings strategical war game
     
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    Master_Yoda77 True Doom

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    Also about Tom Bombadil:

    http://km-515.livejournal.com/1042.html

    tl;dr version: Tom Bombadil is a liar and his forest is the most dangerous place in Middle Earth. He is an evil older than Sauron and Morgoth and is biding his time before his darkness spreads.
     
  5. Matt

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    This reply in the comments section sums it up for me. While I like the idea that Tom is evil and that is forest is 'one of the most dangerous places in Middle Earth', I don't think there is enough evidence to support it. There's definitely something sketchy about him though.
     
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    Given that he isn't fully "fleshed out", this exegesis is more thorough than most in capturing the full situation rather than hanging on a contingent descriptions of Bombadil himself.
     
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    Shit yoda. Now I am dreaming of a day when some lost Tolkien journals are discovered, explaining Tom Bombadil. Sort of like how I fantasize about a fully-realized Beethoven's 10th being discovered.
     
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    There's also no way that his forest is more dangerous than Minas Morgul, Barad-dur, Cirith Ungol, etc. Unless every tree is an evil ent or something.
     
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    BTW I wasn't saying any of it was accurate or true. I just thought it was interesting.
     
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    Why do people think Cirith Ungol is so damn dangerous? In the movie, Gandalf even acts concerned when he finds out that Frodo and Sam took that path. Like....seriously? A big spider is more dangerous than knocking on the fucking Black Gate? What were the hobbits supposed to do?
     
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    I'm not saying Shelob is a puss, but I don't find it terribly hard to believe that an entire evil forest could present more dangers than a spider that two hobbits dealt with WITHOUT the help of Tom Bombadil.
     
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    Shelob is probably a Maiar, an incredibly formidable opponent. Besides, that whole path is traveled by Mordor orcs.
     
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    She's an offspring of Ungoliant, who most definitely was a Maiar.

    And Frodo and Sam are very small, plus they had magical elven cloaks that could shield them. I don't think it would have been more or less difficult than taking Cirith Ungol. What they should have done is not dicked around for 17 years after Bilbo gave Frodo the ring and immediately started on a journey around fucking Mordor, coming in through the east, unawares.
     
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    So something I never quite understood, perhaps the movies fucked it up for me. Zirakzigil is apparently on the outside of the Misty Mountains? Because in the scene where Gandalf kills the balrog, it is snowing and raining. If is outside then, how the fuck did they get out there? They both fall a long way down. I don't understand the logistics of how that happened.
     
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    What the movie shows is Gandalf and the Balrog falling down Khazad Dum, hitting the lake in the bottom of the mountain. At the bottom lies The Endless Stair, which climbs all the way back up to the peak of the mountain. What the movie shows is the Battle at the Peak where Gandalf did actually kill the Balrog. Zirakzigil is just the dwarven name of the mountain.
     
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    Oh okay, gotcha. Also, Zirakzigil is the name for the summit/peak where they fought. At least according the internet.
     
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    Of course. People don't give different names to the peaks of mountains, unless I am mistaken.
     
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    Well considering there is an actual structure there, it would make sense to have a different name.
     
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    Zirakzigil also called Silvertine, Celebdil (Sindarin: "Celeb" [Silver], "-dil" [point]) by the Elves, was a mountain in the Misty Mountains of Middle-earth where Gandalf's fight with Durin's Bane ended.

    This is such a dumb argument lol.
     

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