This site is supported by the advertisements on it, please disable your AdBlocker so we can continue to provide you with the quality content you expect.

Welcome to Our Community

Wanting to join the rest of our members? Feel free to sign up today.

Metal bands that mix in Rap/Hip Hop and don't suck

Discussion in 'Band Recommendations Forum' started by NinjaGeek, May 15, 2008.

  1. Vimana

    Vimana Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2007
    Messages:
    11,833
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    38
    I disagree with them not being able to mix, Rap and Metal do have one thing in common, they can both be really aggressive. It isn't impossible to create some kind of beat, throw in some Metal riffs, Rap over it, and maybe add in some solos.

     
    #21 Vimana, May 16, 2008
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 20, 2015
  2. Cythraul

    Cythraul Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2003
    Messages:
    6,750
    Likes Received:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    63
    So?

    Yeah and it would be fuckin' shitty.
     
  3. Vimana

    Vimana Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2007
    Messages:
    11,833
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Shitty is all subjective.
     
  4. Cythraul

    Cythraul Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2003
    Messages:
    6,750
    Likes Received:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Oh thanks for bringing up that point again. Who needs to go through the trouble to discuss or debate over something when you can just say it's subjective?
     
  5. Vimana

    Vimana Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2007
    Messages:
    11,833
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    38
    There is no point in continuing this.
     
  6. Cythraul

    Cythraul Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2003
    Messages:
    6,750
    Likes Received:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Sure there is. It's quite significant whether or not a rap/metal mixture is even capable of being artistically viable in any way. You're just a coward.
     
  7. Dem0n0id

    Dem0n0id Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2008
    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Well, your not making any great argument either.
    Saying 'the two generes don't mix' isn't any better.

    For me, it depends on the intentions of the artist for using rap with metal.
    If they just want mainstream appeal, then ditch them by all means.
    If they really do have excellent lyrics which portrays an excellent point and doesn't use shit like niggaz bitches blablabla every single line, then by all means go for it!
     
  8. Cythraul

    Cythraul Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2003
    Messages:
    6,750
    Likes Received:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I made a claim that I'm prepared to defend. The problem with his post is that he used the same old all-purpose conversation stopper that everybody uses when they don't want to bother critically evaluating their own views. When you are too lazy for such things, just resort to amateur philosophizing, eh?
     
  9. DarkBliss

    DarkBliss ...And okra for all

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2006
    Messages:
    5,333
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Ashdod, Mosesland
    What should a rap/metal mixture be able to accomplish for you to consider it artistically viable?
     
  10. Cythraul

    Cythraul Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2003
    Messages:
    6,750
    Likes Received:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I don't really think that question is to the point. Besides, I'd have to imagine rap being a drastically different art form than what it actually is to be able to say how such a juxtaposition could be viable. Much more pertinent would be the reasons why I think such a mixture can't be artistically viable. I do not think these genres share the same artistic aims. It's like mixing country and rap. Most people would find such a combination utterly ridiculous, little more than novelty. I don't think such a judgment is wholly arbitrary. Genres possess certain aesthetic and thematic tropes that exclude others from consideration. I think this is a pretty strong consideration, since it can even explain irony in music/art (a blending of incompatible tropes, but presented in a way that is not meant to be taken wholly seriously). I can elaborate on these points later if you'd like.
     
  11. unknown

    unknown fuck ftagn

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2003
    Messages:
    14,820
    Likes Received:
    623
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    The Red Tower
    has the whole world gone CRAZY?! AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE RULES?!!
     
  12. Vimana

    Vimana Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2007
    Messages:
    11,833
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    38
    I'm no coward, I just get tired of fighting this argument countless times over different music forums.

    Which is the reason I resort to the subjective thing, arguing about this is incredibly boring, and I have better things to do.
     
  13. angelic-rage

    angelic-rage Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2008
    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    east sussex, u.k
    can i attempt to end this? stuck mojo - metal is dead.


    its awesome

    and as you said, there should be great lyrics. which there are. coincedentally, the lyrics are about artists that produce shitty, unoriginal music that get money and kill real metal. listen, its great.
     
  14. waif

    waif Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2007
    Messages:
    18,908
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Montreal
  15. the phoenix

    the phoenix Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2004
    Messages:
    142
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Definitely check out the song Master of Disguise (phantom fx s.c.n. remix) by Arcturus.
     
  16. NinjaGeek

    NinjaGeek Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2007
    Messages:
    1,056
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    since everyone ignored my first post with this, I'll make it easier for you.

    [ame]http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=7huvlX4_8eI[/ame]
     
  17. NinjaGeek

    NinjaGeek Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2007
    Messages:
    1,056
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    wow completely missed this the first time and didn't realize this was the same compilation album as the cripple bastards rap song.
     
  18. Hellion0621

    Hellion0621 Captin America where are?

    Joined:
    May 17, 2008
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    The Sandbox
    In my search I have found that it sounds better when metal bands use elements of hip-hop and not trying to blend the two. You can try the loud rocks, take a byte out of ryhm, or too legit for the pit but they all have hits and misses.

    The bands that I enjoy that use element and fundemental likr the roots do are;
    Winds of Plague
    As Blood Runs Black
    The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza
    Arsonist get all the Girls
    Bring me the Horizon
    Emmure
    E. Town Concrete
    Animosity
     
  19. V.V.V.V.V.

    V.V.V.V.V. Houses Ov Mercury

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2004
    Messages:
    32,121
    Likes Received:
    41
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Dracut, MA
    FATE (FRANCE)
     
  20. NinjaGeek

    NinjaGeek Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2007
    Messages:
    1,056
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Not quite as much hip hop as I'd like, but still a really kickass band.
     

Share This Page