but arn't saying you don't like something and saying something is crap two different things entirely? I mean, nu-metal may be best defined by its tonality, low tunings, and semi hip hop/rap lyrics and such things, and you may not like it, and i don't particularly find it appealing on that surface level either. but others certainly do, and underneath those layers their may be true substance that is quite artistic. to say you think it is ALL crap is to say that you have heard it all, every last song, and found nothing of value in it at all. And sometimes expressive is also ugly and therefore enjoying something isn't necessarily a requirement for being "good", just good listening, and IMO music isn't JUST about listening. And I'd also like to say I try to stay away from using the word "all" as much as possible. I wouldn't want someone judging me as just one of group X that always does Y just because of one of my inharent characteristics, so to pass unjustified judgement on others in this manor would not just be unjustified, but also hypocritical.