I'm just curious as to how much music theory fans of Spatic Ink, Watchtower and technical music in general possess. Is it because you have knowledge in music theory that you can appreciate bands like this so much, or do you just find the music pleasant to listen to, without knowing anything about theory? What about playing an instrument? Do you think the ability to play a particular instrument gives you some sort of insight into the music that allows you to enjoy it more than the average listener perhaps? Or are there fans here who know neither any music theory nor how to play an instrument? I was listening to... i can't remember what it was, but i was listening to a band the other day and i just thought that perhaps the reason people can't get into the more technical bands is because of their lack of understanding just how much skill it takes, or how complicated it can yet. They might hear it and think it just sounds like some chaotic mess, but when people with some sort of understanding of theory or understanding of a music instrument - even if it's not that advanced - hear it, perhaps they can appreciate it and get into it more because of that. I don't mean to sound elitist or anything in this post, i'm just genuinely interested in seeing people's views on this subject. I've noticed Ron mention on this board his distaste for the state of progressive music and some of you echoing this sentiment. So i'm wondering what the cause of this is. Obviously fans who do appreciate technical and progressive music are loyal and dedicated to that kind of music. I mean it's not like there are loads of technical bands for fans to swim in. I think this loyalty goes some way to keeping the technical music we do have afloat in the vast sea of other music, but this just brings us the question: why aren't there more fans? I've mentioned Spastic Ink to some of my friends before and none of them have even heard of them. We're not talking your average music listener here either. We're talking musicians who can and do appreciate progressive and technical music. So now this leads me to believe that perhaps it's all an exposure problem, but then i can only speak about exposure from the viewpoint of a musician and metal fan living in Melbourne, Australia. And from that viewpoint, the only reason i have gotten into progressive music is because of the internet. Up until now that's the only way i've been able to hear about this kind of music, and most of the time i'm forced to purchase albums on the internet because no stores carry the stuff. A lot of people would not be in the same situation as me so they are at a severe disadvantage when it comes to discovering this kind of stuff. I'm not sure if it's the same in other countries. Anyway i'm interesting in hearing what others here have to say about this subject.