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New Amp Day!!! Revision F Mesa Dual Rectifier

Discussion in 'Backline' started by BLUElightCory, Mar 8, 2013.

  1. BLUElightCory

    BLUElightCory Member

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    Just scored a great deal on a Revision F Dual Rectifier. It needs a little TLC (small parts, tubes, etc.) and I'm going to recover the head cabinet and maybe have the faceplate anodized black. Pretty stoked!
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    Nice score! How's it sound so far?
     
  3. BLUElightCory

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    So far so good. I'm still getting the hang of it, it's definitely a different beast than the newer Rectos. The controls are much more responsive, but they're also a lot touchier, so I'm still experimenting and finding all the sweet spots. Also, the tubes have been in there for years so I need to order some new ones. Overall the amp sounds more open and has more of the evil, ugly-in-a-good-way character than the newer Rectos, and there's more usable gain (it doesn't really saturate until around 2-3 o'clock on the gain knob, whereas newer Rectos saturate around noon).

    I also picked up a new speaker cab (Mills Afterburner) so there much messing around still to do. The Mills is awesome because you can crank the Recto and it doesn't buckle from the volume/bass that the Recto generates. My Mesa Traditional cab can't take the same punishment, and my oversize Mesa cab would have turned into a mudfest.

    Once I'm done restoring everything I'll put up some clips.
     
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    true they saturate at 3 o'clock and they're more open.
    But to me they don't sound meaner than new rectos (2001 or 2010)
     
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    I agree with this, but I also must admit it's not really to my tastes, so a 2010+ Triple Recto will definitely be my next amp
     
  6. BLUElightCory

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    I'm actually inclined to agree. By "newer Rectos" I was referring more to the Rev. G and the first gen of 3-channel Rectos. I'd like to get the two side by side, but so far I might prefer the newest multi-watt Rectos to the Rev. F (I've definitely not been subtle on this board about my love of the new multi-watt Rectos). I could use a bit more refinement right now, and the clean/crunch tones on the 2010 and later Rectos are killer. I'm gonna finish restoring it and try it with new tubes and stuff; if it doesn't blow me away I'll sell it and get a "Reborn" Recto.
     
  7. MarcusGHedwig

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    Nice, and yeah, the reborn ones seem like a perfect blend of the raw open brutality of the 2-channels (IMO from Lasse's clips, and having owned a Rev G for awhile, the Rev. F and G don't really sound all that different) and as you say the more refined, less fizzy/"hairy"/noisy (but a bit cold and stiff-feeling) 1st-gen 3-channels
     
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    I always liked the sound of the Rev F. They seem to sound a little more full to me than the Rev G. Might be my favorite recto.
     
  9. Lasse Lammert

    Lasse Lammert HCAF Blitzkrieg

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    Congrats!
    My RevF is BY FAR the best recto I've ever owned or played (and that we're a lot).
     
  10. BLUElightCory

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    Lasse, what are you using in yours as far as preamp/power tubes? Your amp sounds clearer/less muddy/less fizzy than mine, at least in your clips. I suspect I need some fresh tubes, but do you have any tips for getting the thing in tip top shape?
     
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    Slightly OT, but is there a general consensus as to what the best version of a Mesa Rectifier amp is/was?
     
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    as the guys said, rev F (two channel of course) is considered the best one you can get your hands on.
    Personally I heard better tones coming from the 2010 versions, they're just meaner.
     
  13. Lasse Lammert

    Lasse Lammert HCAF Blitzkrieg

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    tubes actually play quite a role in that sound, yes...I tried like 100 different combinations, till I found my favourite one.
    it's
    =C= 6L6 in the poweramp.

    preamp:
    V1:
    http://www.tubeampdoctor.com/en/sho...ECTED/7025_HIGHGRADE_TAD_Premium_Selected_390
    V2: Mesa selected JJ
    v3: mesa selcetd JJ
    v4: Chinese 9th gen
    PI: Sovtek LPS
     
  14. BLUElightCory

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    You're a gentleman and a scholar!

    I already ordered a Tung-Sol for the V1 preamp tube, I'll grab a TAD as well and stick whichever one I like less into my AC15.

    I was already planning on Winged Cs for the power tubes (it has old JJs right now) and it's got a random assortment in the V2-V5 preamp slots so I might as well just copy your setup, haha.

    Thanks!
     
  15. BLUElightCory

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    Rev F and earlier (up to serial number ~2800-ish) are the most sought-after, though saying they're the best is purely subjective. They sound generally rawer and less compressed (for better or worse) than more recent models and have a serial effects loop, attached power cord, and small logo.

    The new multi-watt Rectifiers (2010ish and later, with the wattage switches on the front) sound amazing and are easily the most versatile Dual/Triple Recs out there. They have great high-gain tones and IMO the best clean/crunch tones of the Rectifier amps.

    Rev G and rackmounted Rectifiers also sound great, have a parallel effects loops and removable power cords. A little bassier and looser than earlier revisions.

    Finally, the pre-2010 3-channel Rectos are probably the least sought-after version, but I've heard plenty of them that sounded awesome, and indeed some of my favorite tones that I've recorded have come from pre-2010 3-channel Recs. Different strokes for different folks.
     
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    I ordered the metal tube kit from here a while back for my 2-channel Recto (Rev G, I think). The cleans lost some sparkle, but channel 2 is a beast.
     
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    I like the pentas, that combination looks pretty good.
    I'm not the biggest fan of the tung sol in v1 of the recto though.
    I love the tightness of the TAD rt010....if you want a bit more juice/fat I'd try the rt080
     
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    Excellently put, nothing to add! (except an emphasis that I too have heard some killer tones from 3-channels, though mostly Triple Rectifiers)
     
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    I've managed to get a hold on a Rev F Dual Recto for my next session. I'm going to have my 2005 3-channel Triple Recto there as well, so I might record some comparison clips if I get time to do it. Really looking forward to trying it out!
     
  20. BLUElightCory

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    Popped in a TAD 7025 WA (they sent the RT080) and a set of Winged C 6L6s, HUGE improvement. The TAD is dramatically better than the JJ that was in there, much fatter and less brittle. Still waiting on a few parts, I'll post clips when the amp is back in one piece. Thanks again Lasse!
     

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