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Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by Der Morgenstern, Jun 1, 2011.
Wrong decade Opeth.
The new song is good. I am intrigued by the slight change in direction and will check out the full-length.
Do you guys usually listen to stuff like Camel, Eloy, Caravan, The Flower Kings, Yes, Magma, etc ?
I like some Camel, but pretty much the only prog-rock band I love is Jethro Tull.
And Opeth will never be anywhere near as good as Tull, especially going in this shitty direction.
idk know what you guys are talking about.I think it looks pretty fuckin awsome.
Pretty hard to top the best.
But still what? When you're not trying to be provocative, the rest of your statement didn't really say anything that hasn't already been brought up.
Don't like this song, but there might be a couple of good ones on the album. Honestly, I wish they would have gone in a more old school prog direction more along the lines of Damnation meets Camel or something similar.
Change in direction is no longer an issue - I think it's clear most people are open to it. The issue is, from the looks of things so far, that the interpretation/execution of this new direction is kinda... well, shit.
And seriously, that cover? Anyone who thinks it's passable has no awareness of art. It's so bad it's a steaming log.
That song wasn't good. It really doesn't sound too far removed from the last album. I was expecting more change. I don't get why Akerfeldt, if he doesn't want to play death metal anymore, didn't go out and get prog-leaning musicians to replace Lindgren and Lopez. The new guys don't seem to bring anything to the table at all.
Pretty much. Although I thought you always liked Genesis the most.
Camel > anything opeth will ever do, period.
Opeth can't even touch Camel. Opeth tries to be them by stealing their riffs, and then when they try and write 70's prog stuff it just doesn't sound that impressive compared to the real groups.
Exactly. Opeth fusing predominantly heavier metal elements with prog was great. Opeth doing prog rock is just boring shit and I don't understand why a prog fan wouldn't just want to listen to the real deal instead of a band that are 40 years late for the bus.
Not that impressive on first listen and my instincts tell me that Opeth are past expiration date, but I'll still give the album a listen.
Yeah, I bounce back and forth. I probably listen to Tull more.
I struggled to listen to the entire track. The last Opeth album I listened to was GR so I don't know if this is an improvement or not.
After listening again it isn't too bad. Though the vocals lines around 2/3 in are pretty gay.
His choice of musicians at this point, with the direction he's taken, is utterly bizarre. They are metal musicians and the sound on Watershed did not work for me, the drumming was mechanical, the Akesson lead on track 2 sooo metal-ish it hurt. I couldn't agree more about how strange it is, though I've not listened to this new track.
I also think it's a shame he's working so hard on stripping down the influences on Opeth to such obvious degrees, I liked them because there were elements of intricate 70s folk work being woven through dark, violent, emotional music. Last coupla albums there's been a fair bit of *hey it's the 70s let's have a party*, and I think it's self-indulgent.
Has this band ever made any good music or had any good album covers? I'm hardly surprised that this is as bad as I expected. Are their older albums different from albums like Watershed and Blackwater Park?