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NIGHTWISH 2007 USA TOUR

Discussion in 'ProgPower USA' started by 7thSaviour, Oct 14, 2007.

  1. freakchylde

    freakchylde PPUSA Driver o' Doom!!!!!

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    Oh, ok. My friend was out there and relayed that one to me, didn't realize it was you guys. Blame the city council on that one, they think it will discourage underage drinking. Basically, every bar and restaurant had the option to allow smoking all the time, but it had to turn into an 18+ location (to prevent the inhaling of second hand smoke by those poor children under the age of 18). Or, they could do 18+ after 9, like the restaurant next door. I believe the 21+ factor is due to the fact that the Highlander is a bar, and it's primary sales is alcohol based.
     
  2. 7thSaviour

    7thSaviour Power Metal Maniac

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    OK, I hear ya. I don't disagree with what you're saying here at all. Most of the time, I was among those being pushed instead of those doing the pushing. I had no choice but to brace myself as well as those bracing up against me. If anything, I helped more people than I hindered, in that respect. I even had one of my NW shirts ripped from my arms. I later found it a few feet ahead of where I'd been previously standing. Those big guys play rough, but they're honest. One was even holding up stray shoes that people had lost during the melee in hopes of finding their rightful respective owners. It was quite the fracas at times, I tell ya.
     
  3. 7thSaviour

    7thSaviour Power Metal Maniac

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    Well good for you, then. Besides, who'd wanna mess with a nice person such as yourself, right? You sound like a person to be friends with, and one who'd rather not be bothered, and deservedly so. Believe me, I do know the types. Leave the nice guys alone, eh?:saint:
     
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    Easily. I like the band. I'm guessing you aren't familiar with them, and not a fan of their albums? Its not like I'm going to a show and seeing a band I don't like and then saying 'they sucked.'

    I'm a fan of old -Nightwish. Was listening to "over the hills and far away" today, and its just not even close to the same. I prefer Tarja's voice and she was an important part of my enjoyment of that band. Without a comparable singer, I just can't enjoy it as much. That's all.
     
  5. Magius

    Magius .................

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    I have to agree with RiffDaemon that it sounded better because the volume and mix was done right. More bodies may have helped keep some of the reverb down, but neither Lacuna Coil nor DragonForce sounded as good with as many people.

    Next time I see you I'll have my black cowl on and my gold contacts with hourglass pupils in.
     
  6. Exploding Ned

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    Wow, to a certain degree I actually agree with Cheiron. That's almost spooky. No wait, that's my black cat's name. But yeah Paradise Lost flat out cooked IMO. Derek mentioned them and Katatonia on a U.S. tour. That would be amazing. Maybe even bring My Dying Bride along too. All goth metal, all the time.

    As for Nightwish, Annette isn't bad, nice person, energetic on stage, seems to enjoy herself, but I guess I'm having a bit of trouble accepting the change now that I've seen them. And of course them playing in the sardine can of mud (Masquerade) instead of maybe Roxy or Tabernackle doesn't help my outlook. Why doesn't the place get demolished like we've been promised for years, I'll never understand. Actually I do understand. It's a money maker. Basically, if Hendrix was raised from the dead and played there, I wouldn't attend. It's that bad. But anyway, I wish Nightwish all the best as always, just still working on accepting the new band direction. The concept of a classically trained operatic singer vs. a pop singer doesn't quite add up to me. I'm sure they could've picked from several singers like Tarja, but they chose not to.

    They most assuredly have a master plan for it all, just haveta see how it all comes together in the long run. Financially it probably will work to their advantage. They did seem to go over well with the majority of the crowd.

    Great to see alot of familiar faces at the show. PP friends, Record & CD Show friends, tipsy friends.... Good energetic crowd all around.

     
  7. Exploding Ned

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    You're just not much of a goth/dark metal fan probably. That's cool, we all have our favorites. Paradise Lost is highly respected in their genre, even with their stupid fit/major label years in the equation. Their music is intense to their fan base.
     
  8. sh0kr0k

    sh0kr0k Active Member

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    Absolutely!! I was going to reply to Nightmare1z's comment as being just as silly as what he/she thought of the previous comment. It's all subjective... Paradise Lost doesn't have the same "goose on the loose" stage presence as Nightwish, but for me their set was powerful and worth the years I had been waiting to see them!

    I was more looking forward to Paradise Lost and I wasn't disappointed! I didn't have the new CD yet and when they played the song "Requiem" I was completely amazed and bought the disc at their merch table immediately after the show. It's now one of my favorite CDs of all time, even with it's "boring repeated riffs." :Smug: The intricacies and driving rhythms in each song are finger-lickin' good but barely come across live. Then again, I was in the front row so I couldn't hear much of the piped-in synth parts.

    Anyway... not everyone thinks Paradise Lost were boring just because they weren't running around the stage. I'm of the opinion that Paradise Lost does more to progress their genre than Nightwish does, and that to me is big part of my enjoyment in their music, live or recorded.
     
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    Both me and my friend who attended are pretty big doom fans. I like Paradise Lost quite a bit, but I thought they were flat out awful and my friend agreed. I guess it all comes down to personal taste.
     
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    BTW, I was not familiar with Paradise Lost, so I came in open minded. It's not like I'm saying they were boring and I already thought they sucked going into it. I just want to feel some energy on stage.
     
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    Awesome!!
    I was the guy with the Finnish and Swedish flags, yea. I also videotaped
    'The Islander' and it turned out pretty good i'll post it soon.
     
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    crazycamera I take pics....that ROCK!

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    Nightwish was so good at the Masq, but I was disappointed in Paradise Lost! I love their music, but their performance just sucked. After the show at the highlander was OK. It was cool to hang with Marko for awhile, but I will never understand the rock star drunken stupor thing.
    Thought..... I really got the sense that the title of the End of an Era CD really meant an End to an Era with the Tarja years. After listening to Bye Bye Beautiful, I think Tarja really burned her bridges with them much worse than I thought. Thus, I think Nightwish is moving on with the new singer and leaving the Tarja years behind them.... Meaning they may not want to play some of their popular songs from the Tarja years... Does this make any sense?
     
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    They definitely picked Annette for a more pop friendly sound which in turn equates to more album sales. It looks like that has worked so far. I do like the new album quite a bit though. Just takes getting used to. I wonder on the next album if Marco will be just as involved in the singing.

    IMO From Wishes to Eternity is a much much better live album than End of an Era.
     
  14. Berek2000

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    my friends and i met a girl outside that was putting out flyers about her interview with Marco and pictures she would be posting after the show, she too was given a "gift box". it was the coolest little gift! a definite ice breaker.:)
     
  15. lady_space

    lady_space Porno kitty

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    I adore their music, and I quite enjoyed the show. However, I can kind of see other people's point--I think they should have picked a couple of more "uptempo" songs. Not that PL is an "uptempo" band by any stretch, but, hey, Soul Courageous would have gone over well. :D

    The sound WAS better than I've eveer heard it there... Paul's explanation makes sense, considering I don't think I've ever been to a sold out show there before.

    Nightwish was enjoyable. they're still never going to be my favorite band, but I prefer Annette to Tarja by a long shot.

    Shaye
     
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    AMBR Metal Grandma

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    The fact that the Tarja years were over has been spelled out pretty clearly; no guesswork needed. As for the songs, it appears they'll do the ones that Anette has learned well enough and is comfortable with. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with how Tarja did them. I was surprised to hear Anette had done "The Siren" at some gigs, but apparently she did well. The only ones I'm having trouble envisioning with Anette are "Stargazers", "Passion and the Opera" and "Ghost Love Score". Actually, the way Oceanborn was crafted, those will be the harder songs. I know it's many people's favorite CD, but it's my least; much of the vocals sound to strained to me.

    As for the "rock star drunken stupor thing" that appears to be Marco's personal MO for after show relaxation, not any particular shtick. :cool:
     
  17. Exploding Ned

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    Yeah Paradise Lost must be doing something right judging by their international fan base... and been together what 15 years maybe? Hopefully they'll return to the states before too long.

     
  18. 7thSaviour

    7thSaviour Power Metal Maniac

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    I think there is no comparison whatsoever between Anette and Tarja on any level. I still prefer Tarja to Anette in terms of overall presentation and performance, but that is to take nothing at all away from Anette. She did very well onstage and sang and interacted very well with everyone. IMO, it's like comparing an 11 to an 8, with Anette being the latter. I thought NW deserved a solid A grade for their performance. I'd give PL a solid C.
     
  19. AkiraRose

    AkiraRose I am a Fallen Angel

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    I'm sorry but by what I have heard, Tarja would just stand at the mic and sing, maybe bounce around for a bit. But Anette, she's amazing, she looks like she meshes so well with the band and everyone is so relaxed, and she has FUN on stage when she's not singing.
    look at tarja on youtube--she doesn't look like she was having fun on any of the live shows--Annette danced more on any one song last week than tarja did her entire career!!

    And PL blew. After the first two songs i was looking at my dad and wisihng that they would just get the hell of the stage and get to the good band. And they did, though it too FOREVER!
     
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    lady_space Porno kitty

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    I wish everyone who felt that way would have gotten the hell out of my way so I could enjoy the show. And forever? I don't think they played more than 45-50 minutes... the changeover took longer. :p Oh, well, sorry so few people seemed to dig PL, but I'm not at all surprised.

    For anyone saying they "sucked," well, their songs sounded pretty much like they do on disc, so I'm guessing "sucked"="I don't like them" in most cases. *shrug* To each their own, but just wanted to clarify a little.

    Shaye
     

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