This site is supported by the advertisements on it, please disable your AdBlocker so we can continue to provide you with the quality content you expect.

Join the Chaos

Want to join in with the rest of the Hate Crew? Sign up today!

Resemblances or "Rip-offs"

Discussion in 'Children Of Bodom' started by HAemlock, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. HAemlock

    HAemlock Aurora Borealis

    Joined:
    May 31, 2009
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Listening to one of my favourites bands, I've found that some melodies of riffs on the songs of CoB are very similar to others melodies/riffs in other songs by others artists (such as Pantera, Mozart).

    I make a list of the resemblances i've found on the net and alone.

    Something Wild:
    In the Shadows

    Band : Darkthrone
    Song : Transilvanian Hunger


    • • •


    Band : Bathory
    Song : One Rode to Asa Bay

    Artist : Yngwie Malmsteen
    Song : Far Beyond the Sun
    (And some other parts)
    Composer : J.S. Bach
    Work : Invention 13

    Composer : Mozart
    Work : Symphony No.25



    Composer : Mozart
    Work : Confutabis (Requiem)


    • • •

    Lake Bodom

    Artist : Yngwie Malmsteen
    Song : Rising Force


    • • •

    The Nail

    Band : Nuclear Assault
    Song : Vengeance


    • • •

    Part : 2:03 - 2:10

    Composer : J.S. Bach
    Work : Toccata and Fugue


    • • •

    Part : 5:56 - 6:20
    Artist : Yngwie Malmsteen
    Song : Far Beyond the Sun

    Composer : Mozart
    Work : Queen of the Night Aria


    • • •

    Black Widow :

    Composer : Mozart
    Work : Concerto 20 KV 466



    I will add the Wrath Within parst when I will have find again the riffs/melodies (Stone)

    (Wrath Within's 1st solo is a bit similar to the "Sweet Dreams" solo of Stone, and I think the classical parts on the Dual Solo is similar to a Malmsteen's solo)

    • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • •

    Follow the Reaper:
    Bodom After Midnight

    Band : King Diamond
    Song : On the Other Side


    • • •


    Composer : Hans Zimmer
    Song : The Rock Theme


    • • •

    Hate Me!

    Band : Manowar
    Song : Violence and Bloodshed


    • • •

    Kissing the Shadows :


    • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • •

    Hate Crew Deathroll
    Sixpounder

    Band : Pantera
    Song : A New Level


    Bodom Beach Terror

    Band : Carcass
    Song : Corporeal Jigsore Quandary


    Part : 1:07 - 1:40

    Band : Dissection
    Song : Where Dead Angels Lie


    • • •

    You're Better Off Dead

    Band : Scorpions
    Song : Don't Stop at the Top (sorry, I can't find a video for the original version)


    • • •


    Lil' Bloodred Ridin' Hood:



    • • •


    Band : Dissection
    Song : Night's Blood


    • • •



    • • •

    (and I find that the intro riff of Needled is similar to the intro of Silent Scream by Slayer)

    • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • •

    Are You Dead Yet?
    Living Dead Beat :

    Band : Rapture
    Song : Misery 24/7

    (Rapture's album was realised before AYDY)

    • • •

    Are You Dead Yet?

    Band : Sytem Of A Down
    Song : Roulette (That's not a joke ^^)


    • • •

    In Your Face :

    Band : Pantera
    Song : Use My Third Arm


    • • •

    Punch me I Bleed :

    Band : Pantera
    Song : Hard Lines, Sunken Cheeks


    • • •

    Trashed, Lost & Strungout

    Band : Slipknot
    Song : (sic)


    • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • •

    Blooddrunk

    Smile Pretty for the Devil

    Band : Ministry
    Song : Rio Grande Blood


    • • •

    Blooddrunk

    Band : King Diamond
    Song : The Ritual


    • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • •

    (If you find other similar stuff I will add them to the list)​

    Note :
    This isn't a thread against CoB, I think when they composed their songs they've created some riffs/melodies that are more or less similar to other stuffs involuntarily (may be they have listened to this stuff and was inspired by them unconsciously, except the classical stuff)
     
    #1 HAemlock, Jul 21, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 19, 2015
  2. TheSleepingDrummer

    TheSleepingDrummer Senior Reaper

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    492
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Lake Bodom
    Yeh, definitely some similarity amongst these.

    The Manowar and Hate Me ones are really similar in the part showed, but I already knew about that one and the classical pieces on something wild etc.

    There should be a list made of people who have later similar riffs to Bodom.
    mmm
     
  3. drawnacrol

    drawnacrol 7Slinger

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2007
    Messages:
    462
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Ireland
    Wow,theirs so many,their's also all the miami vice and rest of the Amadeus ones

    Can anyone think of melodies by other bands that sound like COB??
     
  4. HAemlock

    HAemlock Aurora Borealis

    Joined:
    May 31, 2009
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Ya, the chorus of "Pinball Map" by In Flames sounds like (a little) "Silent Night, Bodom Night" at 0:52

     
    #4 HAemlock, Jul 21, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 19, 2015
  5. Lari

    Lari Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2002
    Messages:
    960
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Helsinki
    Awesome job, dude! Some fantastic new finds; I don't know my King Diamond and I think those seemed pretty obvious, especially considering that they had recorded the KD cover that was never released just a little before they started working on FTR.

    I laughed hard at the "In the cold winds of nowhere one" - for 2 seconds I didn't know if I was listening to the Bodom track or the Dissection one. Know the feeling when you watch a movie with a Bodom movie quote in and it feels like it has nothing to do with the movie but that someone has dubbed a few seconds of the audio track with a clip from a Bodom CD? :loco:

    I don't really agree with for instance the In Your Face one, it's not really that close and almost every band has a similar part in their songs! Even Nightwish! I think it's somewhere in the middle of Romanticide or some other song from Once.

    Some others not mentioned yet off the top of my head:

    Don't Stop At The Top - You're Better Off Dead pre chorus melody (anyone noticed this before btw?), Miami Vice ones (Flashback - Hate Me!, Tubbs and Valerie - Angels Don't Kill, (maybe Evan - Downfall)), Pantera's A New Level is basically Sixpounder with BBT solo:danceboy: , Rapture's Misery 24/7 starts with a very similar melody to LDB (yeah it's fairly simple but it came out through Spinefarm records at the exact time when AYDY was being composed), Annihilator's King Of The Kill reminds me a lot of Chokehold but I can't remember if there's some certain part, Dissection's Nights Blood - LBRH chorus, SOAD Roulette - AYDY pre chorus, Slipknot (sic) - TL&S 'breakdown'

    I can't remember exactly what all Stone references I've found from Wrath Within, that song sounds more like Stone than Stone ever did themselves! I think the solo was pretty close to Sweet Dreams and the riff after that is in some song but I just can't put my finger on which one it was.. I'll check later if no one else can find it!

    Has anyone noticed anything on Blooddrunk? There's the Laid To Rest/Blooddrunk similarity thing going on but it's not really the same thing. And the Waltari track Hevosenkuva / Roadkill but that was done on purpose (see the latest Alexi interview by Zarok if you have no idea what I'm talking about!).

    Kalmah's Man Of The King starts almost exactly the same as If You Want Peace, just slower. It kinda sounds like as if they were trying to make fun of COB!
     
  6. HAemlock

    HAemlock Aurora Borealis

    Joined:
    May 31, 2009
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    I've added for bloodrunk the rip off of Ministry, thanks a lot for the other rips offs I'm adding them, but for the In Your Face rip off, to me I think it's quite similar for the drums/guitars and structure, and as CoB has been also inspired by Pantera (see the Punch me I Bleed rip off).

    Does anybody know what are the inspired classical works for the Black Widow Bridge, the Black Widow Dual Solo (Mozart I think), and if the Harpsichord interlude in Children of Bodom (song) is original or that's also a rip-off ?
     
  7. vitorias123

    vitorias123 Faceless

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2008
    Messages:
    8,599
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Serbia
    Hey,nice job!Really interesting thread.Its nice to hear all COB influences like this.
     
  8. NecroticSoldier

    NecroticSoldier New Metal Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    hehe thanks I knew I heard those classical parts somewhere before! I still like them though. Yeah! every musician has influences!
     
  9. Fret

    Fret Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2008
    Messages:
    154
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I know the black widow bridge is from Mozart, but I'm not sure what song. There's also a part in RLIME2 from :26 to :40 or so that is ripped from this mozart song.

     
    #9 Fret, Jul 21, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 19, 2015
  10. TheSleepingDrummer

    TheSleepingDrummer Senior Reaper

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    492
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Lake Bodom
    Well, ones that sound similar TO bodom.

    Aborted's Pestificious Subterfuge (the beginning riff) sounds very very similar to In Your Face (also the beginning riff).
     
  11. HAemlock

    HAemlock Aurora Borealis

    Joined:
    May 31, 2009
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Yeah but CoB didn't rip that song because it was realised (Strychnine.213 album) in 2008
    But yeah it sounds a bit similar, but the IYF riff is pretty simple, with one note, a lot of bands use this kind of riff
     
  12. HAemlock

    HAemlock Aurora Borealis

    Joined:
    May 31, 2009
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    For Black Widow's Bridge & interlude, I've found the classical stuff : Mozart Concerto 20 KV 466 (Links added)
    I still have to find the Wrath Within's similar riffs & melodies

    (Part 2:44 - 2:50 ; I've already heard this but I can't remember what is the song and the artist, I think it was Yngwie Malmsteen)

     
    #12 HAemlock, Jul 22, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 19, 2015
  13. Physicx

    Physicx Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    i was listening to dissection just now

    is that bodom beach terror at around 1:57, or am i reaching?

     
    #13 Physicx, Jul 23, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 19, 2015
  14. eveningninja

    eveningninja Skull Kid

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2007
    Messages:
    2,968
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Clock Town Behavior: Pretty good -Syuri
    Wow quite an intensive list you've got there!
     
  15. P4T0U

    P4T0U Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2006
    Messages:
    1,044
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Montreal, Quebec
    I think I know which part from BBT you're talking about but It doesn't look like it at all.
     
  16. HAemlock

    HAemlock Aurora Borealis

    Joined:
    May 31, 2009
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    I didn't notice that the chorus of Where dead angels lie is quite similar to BBT Chorus, the strucute is the same and some notes are the same in the lead part ... thanks Physics
     
  17. Andry_Wildchild

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    712
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    †Italy†
    Are You dead yet[roope's part]

    4:26 - 4:39


    Implosion of heaven
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjYx5lgt40Q&feature=related[/ame]

    2:26 - 2:50

    Not a real rip-oss 'cause it's always cob but i still posted it
     
    #17 Andry_Wildchild, Jul 30, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 19, 2015
  18. Amorphous696

    Amorphous696 New Metal Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2017
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
  19. (__Joonas__)

    (__Joonas__) † Followed the Reaper †

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2005
    Messages:
    9,348
    Likes Received:
    36
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Finland
    FUCK guys. This is something 'else'!!

    It struck me this mysterious piano at 0:38 - 0:41 seemed deeply familiar... I believe this tiny section amidst all the piano is the source of the eerily pretty musical idea that sprouts to a gloomy flourish.



    I dug my mind till my head hurt until I figured it's all over this fucking song! This fucking guy! Never underestimate a person that looks like Jesus. No, jokes aside, this is a melodically sweet track and there's many versions of it.

     
  20. rj rl

    rj rl multidimensionally dyslexic

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2009
    Messages:
    677
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Metal artists sure love Mozart, starting from 2:22:


    same part RLIME pt.2 used.
     

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Our music community has been around for almost 15 years and we pride ourselves on offering great metal music discussion, as well as music production and other closely related topics. We work hard every day to make sure our community is one of the best. Enjoy!
  • Like us on Facebook

  • Donate ♥

    We have worked hard for 15 years (and running) to make sure our Metal community is running fast, uses the best software, and isn't overloaded with advertising. If you love the forum as much as we love bringing it to you, please show your support with a generous donation. We really appreciate it!