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so i fucking suck at snare micing help me out, clips

Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by CatharsisStudios, Jul 10, 2009.

  1. CatharsisStudios

    CatharsisStudios trcksngsrpbngs

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    FUCK YES BIG EDIT

    I FIXED EM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://catharsis.supremepixels.com/drumsalotbetter.mp3


    new pics too.






    oldpost:
    okay, do so i suck at processing or what? whats wrong, i fucking blow at snare they miss so much highend. and if i boost the high end i get massive hella bleed


    -process-



    http://catharsis.supremepixels.com/fml.mp3 -GARAGE

    http://catharsis.supremepixels.com/fml2.mp3 - pantry

    http://catharsis.supremepixels.com/fml3.mp3 - live room ;\....

    unprocessed

    http://catharsis.supremepixels.com/fml1u.mp3 -garage

    http://catharsis.supremepixels.com/fml2u.mp3 - pantry

    http://catharsis.supremepixels.com/fml3u.mp3 live room


    is it the snare? is it the room? its driving me fucking nuts, i am gonan re-read oz's tutorial
     
  2. AdamWathan

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    You're polishing a turd bro, sorry to say! I think you need a better sounding drum.
     
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    Try a different tuning. I did some test the last weeks and I miced different tunings and different chord tension.
    I find that I prefer the batter tunes higher that the resonant. The chord can be tight or loose, it depends by what sound do you want.
     
  4. Fox Mulder

    Fox Mulder The Truth Is Out There

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    Bro, you need a better sounding drum. Post pictures of your micing if possible. I kinda feel that you need to get the mic a little bit closer. From what I hear, the snare needs to be drier, and the dampening could be a tad better. I've got good results by sticking a cotton cloth with duct tape to the snare rather than using moongel or one of those rings. Before recording, dry up the skins using a hair drier (heated). And yes, I'm sorry to say that the snare sounds badly tuned.
     
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    Is that one mic on top?

    I end up micing an sm57 on top and a generic tom mic on the bottom. Sm57 is usually about an inch of the edge in the horizontal axis, and about 4 inches high, angled around 30 degrees. Its important not to mic too close otherwise you just get thud. The bottom mic is pointed at the snares wherever I can attach it, and I make it bright as fuck to componsate for the top.

    I think you are trying to polish a turd, spend a while getting to know what certain positions sound like and you'll be able to come up with something descent fairly easily if you have a reasonable sounding snare.

    Joe
     
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    yeah the snare is bullshit thats why its getting replaced, its so horribly tuned and shit, but thats not my main issue here, i think its my room, like. do you hear how there is NO highend in it and shit,
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    That's some fucking weird mic placement dude. Get it way closer to the rim, just barely peaking over the edge about an inch and a half above the skin pointed at like a 30 degree angle towards the center...
     
  8. Fox Mulder

    Fox Mulder The Truth Is Out There

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    Oops. But I fuckin dig the atmosphere. WOW!

    The room looks pretty clogged up, and that could be the main reason why you're missing out on a lot of the high-end.
     
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    thats how i was micing, there is a bottom snare on it too, god it blows. i can't get a good sound out of it. so i think its the snare, and the room,
     
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    yeah, i am gonna be getting woodfloors in there, and then build that resonerator think that oz has, and maybe its a standing wave problem there is only 4 parallel walls
     
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    EVH kit motherfucker :D
     
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    so i just tried the micing with the rim, it still sounds like shit
     
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    What's with all the tape, d00d?

    Drums are all about capturing the source faithfully. It's all you can really hope to do. If the drum doesn't blow your pants in the room, or the room itself doesn't blow your pants then you've got issues. You need a great starting point, and then on top of that you have to process like a mofo afterwards because those are just the drum sounds everyone is used to these days. Without a good starting point it's hopeless. Go back to them Slates.
     
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    thats the problem though,








    i am having trouble getting it to sound like the source, i mean yeah the snare blows, not that much.
     
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    I wouldn't even put a mic on that drumkit.
    Get a good drum, new skins, good tuning, and then good micing :)
    And lately the only thing i do is compress and a tiny dip or raise here and there, no more then a db orso

    Stop covering it in tape dude haha
     
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    that was the drummers call i i said just tape the edges, word, so i am gonna go get some ply wood, and doo the 8x8 shit, and then the drum riser.
     
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    the kits a custom dw which is sad too
     
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    That much tape is seriously compensating for something. Just get a starting point by taking all of it off, getting some new skins, tuning the kit up properly, then go from there. If you need something to dampen the tone, use moongel.

    Listening to the clips, it sounds like it has potential. You just have to refine your mic placement and tuning/dampening of the snare.
     
  19. Executioner213

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    My first thought was to get rid of the fuckin tape. No point in trying to deaden a drum...the more shit you have on the head, the more dynamic (possible high end) you are going to kill on it. I'm no drum genius, but thats my input.
     
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    well we are sampling it too the drummer knew this, i guess that why there were no new heads haha
     

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