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Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by lolzgreg, Jul 17, 2010.
as a send, yeah. but not as an insert
He DEFINITELY uses a limiter.
My question was: "If you use a limiter, when do you mix into it, or put it on your master bus later on?"
Then he gave me his master bus chain, which he ALWAYS mixes IN TO, which included a limiter.
It was pretty cool. They gave everyone who attended a certificate for 25% off all CLA Waves plugins, which is an epic win for guize like me
There were some great questions and arguments as well. Some guy was railing the Waves guys for charging so much for TDM, but there happens to be a reason for it. TDM is really pointless. They just need to write software to be able to use a quad or octo core to its fullest potential.
I've actually been doing the light chorus thing on distorted guitars lately because I was listening to some great albums like Machinehead's "Burn My Eyes" and I solo'd the left or right side when it was just guitar and I heard a phasey thing going on so I tried to copy it and it seems to make the guitars sound smoother and like they're in a more 3D space.
Interesting.. Check this video http://www.recordproduction.com/chris-lord-alge-video640.html from 30:15 -->
I think this shows that he might be talking bit this and that on every interview.. or maybe he's started to use it recently..
I also remember hearing that Ted Jensen quoted somewhere that Alge mixes are so easy to process due the skill and lack of any kind of limiting.
But as said, who cares.. Lets improve and work on our own skills and workflow.
He could have meant an out board limiter.. ie: Vari Mu, Maselec MPL- 2, Pendulum Pl-2. Did he specify if it was hardware or software?
Its already getting harder and harder to make a living. Kids keep stealing software, music and recording for free or next to nothing, the next generation of engineers is just fucked!
Im happy to see Cla touched on this, and that should show how important this issue really is.
Thanks for the post Greg!
Couldn't agree more! Rob had confirmed this setup too since a whike...
Thanks for sharing your info. This make the forum great.
No problem guys. I'm glad you liked it.
Now how do you pronounce his name? LoL
Thats what I always thought, but wasn't sure haha.
Tasty! Thanks Greg.
Thanks a lot Gregg, great info there!
Any idea if the subwoofer he's talking about was intended for studio monitoring or is it another kind? I might just try recording mine with a d6.
sounds like he could be talking about the old Lexicon PCM42 -trick ?
Care to elaborate on that one, Lasse?
Might be.. but according to some of the presets in signature series plugin he actually uses chorus and short 8-note delay on distorted (rhythm)guitars..
I believe it's all about creating the 3D-feel and sense of space. One of Alge's greatest forte IMO. I'd say it's more of a hardrock/pop type of approach still. Couldn't imagine using these much in tight modern metal production..
Did they mention anything about the structure of the plugins? Would be nice to know from which waves plugins they have built this series.. there has to be the SSL emulations, CLA comps, H-delay, LoAir, something for the pitch modulations and most interesting.. the verbs.. They sound really nice..
Don't think so. Of course, the PCM 42 is a delay unit but the "trick" refers to overriding the input limiters (as you know), not actually using it for a delay effect (what you can do additionally, ofc). I think he simply meant adding some delay or he would have worded it differently.
There wasn't somebody who asked specifically about the PCM 42 - by chance, Greg?
And thanks for the write-up!