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Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by Line Level Recordings, Oct 21, 2009.

  1. Line Level Recordings

    Line Level Recordings New Metal Member

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    i notice on my guitar tracks
    they sound awesome

    but on the tail of the high end ( 20 K) it holds a little hissy distorty tone. very subtle

    its like using a shitty "distortion plug in" and you putting the drive all the way but the mix setting at 5 %
    im not good at explaing stuff so i hope you understand what im trying to say

    but im really frustrated
    and i tried everything . . :(
    i tried lowering the gain on the amp
    i tried lowering the treble on the amp
    i tried different settings on the pre amp . ..
    i tried so many positions,
    i tired an sm57 and an sm58

    could it be bad converters ?
    im using a firestudio project as an interface

    please share your thoughts

    thanks for your time:headbang:
     
  2. Zack Uidl

    Zack Uidl Member

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    why didn't you post an example
     
  3. Line Level Recordings

    Line Level Recordings New Metal Member

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    cause im a fucking idiot...
    and cause i cleaned up all the shitty takes ;)

    ill put one up tomorrow
    and hopefully there will still be someone interested enough to help me out

    but on the top of your head , would you know what it could be ?
    its a distorted sizzle ..very subtle.
     
  4. ahjteam

    ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen

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    I usually put a lowpass filter at 8-12k or so depending on the guitar tone
     
  5. Aaron Smith

    Aaron Smith Envisage Audio

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    If your problem area is seriously at 20k, it should be a non-issue since you don't need any frequencies that high represented in your mix anyhow. Definitely lowpass the guitars down to at least 12k or so.
     
  6. Line Level Recordings

    Line Level Recordings New Metal Member

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    great suggestions, how low though ? generally?
     
  7. GarethSE

    GarethSE New Metal Member

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    ...
    Did you not read Zack's post?
    He just said 12khz.
     
  8. Line Level Recordings

    Line Level Recordings New Metal Member

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    ...Yea
    i did read his post...
    but "low" as in Decibels

    i wouldn't just cut 12 KHz off completely
     
  9. GarethSE

    GarethSE New Metal Member

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    ... Fucking hell..
    Right
    Use a low-pass filter, not your traditional notch type eq.
    Set the thingy to 12khz
    then turn it alllll the way down
    it'll roll off smoothly like a little slope.
    It'll sound fairly dark but you don't really need any information above it.

    Edit: And if you'd have read ahjteam's post you would have seen that he specified "lowpass filter."
     
  10. John_C

    John_C formerly Skeksis268

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    It does sound like you don't know what a low pass filter is Line Level Recordings
    that is a little worrying (although fine if you use them you've just never known the terminology)
     
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    Lowpass..

    Slide it slowly so you cut more and more until you hear your tone change in a way you dont like and then
    go back up a little bit.
     
  12. Line Level Recordings

    Line Level Recordings New Metal Member

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    that suggestion helped me alot
    i guess its a bit of common sense as well as intellectuality
     
  13. Line Level Recordings

    Line Level Recordings New Metal Member

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    now this comment
    really got my attention

    i do know what a lowpass filter is lol

    i just dont use them often
    im new to this
    which is why i learn from some people worth learning from

    like, the great people on this thread that explained to me how to use the lowpass filter without making me feel like i dont know anything

    thanks guys:kickass:
     
  14. Line Level Recordings

    Line Level Recordings New Metal Member

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    aha!
    i finally see the fault to my comment

    i tried a lowpass filter
    and it just cuts it off completely

    i, can now see why when i said " how low" could have confused you or made me seem confused
    sorry about that


    thanks gareth
     
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    Charles J New Metal Member

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    ....but dude, how long are you going to use us as a crutch to hold your fucking hand throughout every 'problem' you have.

    a little common sense goes a long way, seriously....

    PROBLELM: "OH I HEAR A 20k (?????) NOISE ON MY VOCALS, GTRS, WHATEVER???"

    let's think.... how should we fix this.... well, first of all, I doubt it's at 20 fucking K because you'd never hear it if it was.

    SOLUTION: Fucking cut the highs until you don't hear it anymore?

    I mean, this is isn't CHEMISTRY for gods' sakes, it's going to take a little more creative intuition that you think, bro.

    /rant
     
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    GarethSE New Metal Member

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    Can we just start ignoring this kid's threads now?
     
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    just reading the title of the thread, i thought this was going to be about de-essing.
     
  18. MetalAges

    MetalAges Captain Spectacular
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    Everyone, if you do not like answering/reading the guys post, please use this simple option (quoted above) vs. attacking the guy each time.

    If you don't want to spend the time helping him, simply don't post. Thanks.
     
  19. Lasse Lammert

    Lasse Lammert HCAF Blitzkrieg

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    Hey Line Level....
    after you had reported this thread I of course had to check it, cause I take these reports very seriously.
    But I have to admit that I have no idea what you actually want me to do here....you probably don't want to hear it, but I have to agree with this post actually
    Also with what Sigmund said.

    to elaborate a bit further (or actually repeat what greywolf said):
    This is a forum for professionals and beginners alike, noone needs to be pro from the first time he throws a mic at something.
    Almost everyone on this forum is really supportive and helps the "newbs", no matter how "beginner-level" the questions are.
    In your case the problem is, that you are CHARGING MONEY for your work, that means you're selling a "professional" product, your questions show clearly, that you're at the VERY beginning of learning this craft and BY FAR not experienced enough to run a business....
    as I said, that is nothing bad, there are a lot of hobbyists here, and noone has a problem with that...
    but there are also some pros here. who have to make a living producing/recording bands....
    and to be frank one of the biggest problems of this business are young kids with little knowledge and a cracked version of sx3 operating from their bedrooms.
    everyone of the pros experiences the following situation at least 4 times a year:

    Band asks for a quote...pro engineer gives them the cheapest price (much below what the work is actually worth), band replies with "but the guitarist of my brother's band runs a studio and he does it for 1/10th of the price".

    What follows is either explaining those bands what quality studiowork means and how much good gear costs, or just resignating and sending them to that "bedroom studio guy" (that's what I'm usually doing).

    I'm not exaggerating when I say that these bedroom-"studios" are the BIGGEST plague of the production/engineering/recording-industry.

    And again, it's all good if you don't have a lot of experience, gear or knowledge..and people will gladly help you out with pretty much every question...
    In your case you're running a business and charging money, that means you're offering "pro work"...your questions clearly show that you're FAR from being a pro...hence the comments of greywolf and sigmund.

    I cannot ban them for that, nor would I want it to do that, cause I can perfectly understand where they're coming from.

    My advice would be:
    be humble, learn the craft, improve your skills, GET THE BASICS COVERED...
    but don't pretend to be a pro engineer/don't charge money/don't offer pro studiowork, when you're NOT a pro.
    cause noone will like that over here, as I said above...THAT exactly is the biggest problem of this industry...if you wanna be a part of this industry fight this problem, dont be a part of the problem.


    so much for the explanation from my side.......I totally agree with metalages, threads can just be ignored, and no need to insult anyone (don't really see anyone having done that in this thread though)....
     
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    Line Level Recordings New Metal Member

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