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Started building my (small) studio

Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by Eduardo Apolonia, Dec 3, 2006.

  1. Pedro Teixeira

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    Excellent post Eddy!
     
  2. Mikaël-ange

    Mikaël-ange Member

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    Respect man:worship:
     
  3. Macke/Crystal Light

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    Just read through the whole thread and what an inspirational thread it is. Huge respect to Eddy!
     
  4. Eduardo Apolonia

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    Fixed :)
     
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    You have an amazing studio :)...allready said it before but thought I really needed to post it again!
    This is just pure porn..

    Any possibility of making a "cribs" kinda video? Really curious about a video of tour of that studio! :).
     
  6. AudioGeekZine

    AudioGeekZine arsehole know-it-all

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    +1 that would be cool.
     
  7. Pot

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    Whoa dude long post :)

    not an easy package to obtain:( myself missing the opportunity/luck part...


    I totally agree with u on this...however i´ve came to realise that they DO have jobs and i´m fucked in the butt since october (i´m crossing the desert here....and don´t see an oasis nearby:guh:, therfore the negativity:))


    Nice of u to give us all an insight of your background ...
    I suppose u attended “etic” right !? At some point in time i also did think of doing the same but i was allready in the 3rd year of law school and dropping out didn´t seem to be a good option..today i don´t know is i opted the right way, but hey...life´s decisions:bah:

    Yeah continuing your family business is a wise decision, especially if you´re in to it (congrats on your expansion).

    TIME is very rare item.
    I ´ve found this small piece of wisdom: when u have the time u don´t have the money and vice versa :meaning, one can have all the money in the world, but if one doesn´t have the time to enjoy it what´s the point of having all that?!?! Hope u do find the time to dedicate yourself to recording.

    Fucking TRUE, i´ve been dealing with this this year, because i had a son and decided to leave the big city to be near him and mom,raising him in my hometown, the pitfall is my contract ended and i´ve been unemployed since october...without receiving anything from wellfare, which sucks badly


    Don´t we all?

    Once again,I congratulate u on this massive endevour..the sensation of completion must have been great..i imagine your face when it all came together:D


    i don´t agree with generalisations, so i´ll disagree on this part and the all portuguese mentality thing...

    yup


    All the best, P
    :worship:
     
  8. Crashdown

    Crashdown New Metal Member

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    Hi guys,

    nice to hear some opinions about it all... I'm a pro sound-engineer in Coimbra. I studied in Germany and came here in 1995. Only in 2007 I was able to gather some stuff to build my own commercial studio. I just had to! I've been struggling like hell since then, to pay the rent, and all the costs involved. Luckily I can live from this because I do a lot of Live-Mixing and that is good income. The studio is doing fine but could do better if there were more people working here with me. Unfortunately there are no experienced sound-engineers around.

    I agree with Eddy on the Portuguese mentality, and I can notice that he's a struggler, just like me... but with some headstart.

    Greetings to you all.

    Toni (www.myspace.com/loudstudio)
     
  9. Eduardo Apolonia

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    POT,

    I respect your opinion, I hope you have better luck in the future, never give up :headbang:


    Actually I'm gonna have a friend of mine who works in video that I sometimes work with, to do a video of the studio.
    It should happen this month or next month, but there isn't much to film :lol:

    You can take a look in these studios report of a band I'm recording, just ignore the non-studio footage and you can have an idea of the studio. :lol:



     
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  10. Eduardo Apolonia

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    I'm in the middle of a process of correcting my Control Room acoustics.

    You can see the problem here:

    Green - Left channel
    Red - Right channel

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    I've done a lot, and I mean a lot, of measurements using different room setups and different locations of monitors and the sweet spot. (Pics on next post).

    I have a Portuguese (actually he is Brazilian :lol: ) acoustical consultant and Martin Pilchner helping to determine the problem and the solution.

    I haven't got the final solution yet, just some ideas of what has to be done, I'm still in the process of diagnosing what's happening.
    I'm doing a lot of testing so that I know for sure what has to be done.
     
  11. Eduardo Apolonia

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    Here are some random pics of what I've been doing lately in terms of measurements.
    I'm almost done with it.

    Front left side rockwool panels taken out

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    Measuring Barefoot and Adam, some batt insulation taken out.

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    Measuring Barefoot at a different height. It was inclined but doesn't show in this pic.

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    Rockwool panels back in, Argosy console shelfs were taken out to test difference caused by reflections

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    Rockwool panels on the right side taken out.

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    Some batt insulation was taken out

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    Testing Adams (one of a time) with different basstrap configuration for left and right

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    I had to disconnect the Patchbay DB25 cables on the back to take the rack out to slide the console to the back (I'm glad that I bought a patch bay with DB25 connectors on the back )

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    Measuring Barefoot with different Rockwool panels configuration.

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    The same with the Adam

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  12. Eduardo Apolonia

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    More pics:

    Moved the console to the back of the room to check the direct influence in terms of reflections

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    Measuring with the console pushed to the back
    You can also see the subwoofer that was used for testing too.

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    Installed MDF 12mm panels on the front side basstraps.

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    Original Basstrap setup, without fabric.

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    Took the first layer of 6cm 70m3 Rockwool out.
    This shot shows also a MDF panel on the middle.

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    12mm MDF panels screwed on the front of the Basstrap.

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    Back Basstrap completely empty

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    Barefoot inside the front basstrap

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    Adam inside the front basstrap

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    Front basstrap sides completely empty

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    Barefoots in place with the front basstrap sides completely empty

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    The mess inside the recording room with part of the stuff that was inside the control room.

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    Big nulls and peaks Eddie...Did you try with some removable bass traps (panels with air between panels and walls)?
     
  14. Mikaël-ange

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    Good luck Eddy
     
  15. Waterboy

    Waterboy  Certified iPod Trainer

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    Eddy!! Seems like only a couple of days ago this thread started!
    Sorry to hear that you are having to re-do things ... but I am willing to bet that it is going to sound awesome when you finish, sir.
    Thanks for posting these pics!!

    Scott
     
  16. kev

    kev Im guybrush threepwood

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    Everytime I see what Eduardo is up to, I Pause, take a deep breath, and then carry on in my futile ways lol
     
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    Wow, that's nice seeing you experimenting.
    Are you soffit mounting the speakers now? Apparently from what I've read, that gives you a really nice bottom end.
     
  18. Glenn Fricker

    Glenn Fricker Very Metal &Very Bad News

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    Hey Eddy, thanks for the extensive pics. Very cool.


    Have you considered soffit mounting your ADAMs... you're probably getting your bass null due to what's coming out of the back of the speakers reflecting to the listening position out of phase with what's coming from the front.


    It's asounding how much the bass will level out when your drop your monitors into soffits. I did an A/B comparison with my KRK's back when I was building my place & it was quite unreal.


    Here's a couple of diagrams to illustrate the point:

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  19. Metaltastic

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    Soffit mounting strikes me as the kind of thing that can very easily be done wrong, though I guess Eddy's budget isn't really an issue here, so I'm sure if he did do it he'd do it right :D Could the Barefoots be soffit-mounted? (cuz of the subs on the sides, I don't know the specifics of Soffit mounting)
     
  20. Glenn Fricker

    Glenn Fricker Very Metal &Very Bad News

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    It's not overly difficult. You just have to be very, very careful & measure correctly. But it's a pain in the ass if you ever want to change monitors! I went from KRK V8 to Event Precision 8's & we had to re-cut the holes.


    The Barefoots can be mounted, but the subs have to be deactivated. I remember when he was designing them, he put in that feature specifically for soffit mounting.
     

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