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Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by HandsOfDespair, Jan 4, 2010.
a 1/8 in on my desktop isn't a an acceptable DI.
Some of this is repeat but....
1. Convincing a band to spend a few hundred dollars on renting good gear, will in the long run save them thousands on editing and mixing. Much like the 100 minutes of extra tracking will save editing time as mentioned before.
2. Bands have no idea the cost and time it takes to make a "pro" record. Be honest with them and explain it and they'll either A) rethink the budget or the more likely B) will rethink their goals to be more realistic.
3. Most bands are poor. Most bands are awful.
4. While most bands are awful, it's really the shitty ones that help you progress. The better you can make shitty bands sound, the more awesome you'll make a killer band sound.
5. Logic is actually pretty good for mixing in.
I wish I had known that it wasn't worth it to try and fuck around with the cheap garbage entry level stuff.. Working with my RME Fireface is a dream compared to the Presonus garbage I was dealing with.
I also wanna add that after 1 year using cubase, I discovered that the little speaker button is used to monitor what you record with your inserts. During 1 year, I used to record with revalver in standalone and gearbox in insert because I just didn't know the fucking speaker button was used for this. Epic fail is epic.
surely, for "printing" in cubase, you just hit the little freeze button in the VST instruments thing?
does an offline mix down, and transparently puts the frozen files in the mix for you!
what's wrong with solo'ing in cubase? haha
as for me..
*you can do a HELL of a lot with a single '57/'58 and a 2 in 2 out interface, get these, then get nicer stuff later!!
*everyone has their way of doing things. everyone thinks there way is the best. the honest answer is, it doesn't matter. to truely learn something from someone, you need to understand what it is they're doing then be able to apply it with your own style. copy paste gets you no where.
*recording/mixing/editing/mastering is 25% technique 25% effort, and 50% ear, so 2 things, listen, and try and understand what's going on in recordings you want to imitate (imitation is the highest form of flattery, and all), and mix at low volumes, you want to keep your hearing
i think that's all.
This is correct for every genre BUT metal.
Incorrect. If quad tracking isn't working for you, you need to push the musicians harder & tighten up your tuning. Quad tracking rules.
Always take DI tracks on serious projects!
Always take DI tracks period. Every time.
Retune before any serious take and seriously consider removing any bad notes or fixable noises. Also, zooming in on your regions in Logic will never lie about how tight your rhythms are.
Haha. I did the same thing in Sonar.
I recorded a blackmetal EP listening to the DI signal from the direct out.
Veeery cumbersome but my god it sounded tight with distortion on!
Organization - Naming tracks, folder tracks, project folders etc.
Really? You had difficulty organizing your tracks? What DAW were you using?
Not difficulty I just didn't do it Then going back to my old projects to work on was a real pain in the cock. Now I organize the shit out of everything. Cubase BTW
I wish I knew how bad an AKG D112 sucked before I recorded my first band :l
And also how bad a room can affect drum tones but mainly cymbals, a few years ago I just thought that it would be almost the same in any space
make that "I wish I knew how much AKG D112 sucked until I tried other microphones for kick, and that took 4 years"
haha so true! When I tried a D6 and a Beta 91 I just wanted to cry :l Seriously, even with proper heading and tuning I can't even find the d112 suitable for anything (not even talking about metal here), it's sounds like it has a blanket over it, so fucking muffled, it sucks. I know many people like it, but geez.. I hate it
Create a good template and Cubase will do the rest!
I am absolutely NOT incorrect. Listen, if i'm not metal enough for you guys I simply won't post here. Saying stuff like that, aside from being a kind of a douchebag move to a new guy, isn't productive. The thing about recording is that there is no one right way to do it. I understand we're all passionate about our art, otherwise we wouldn't be doing this, but still... there's no need to question my methods just because yours are different.
I like this version better.