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That "Clayman" sound....

Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by Glenn Fricker, Dec 26, 2005.

  1. guy in latvia

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    Going to film a video how to use this technique?
     
  2. brianhood

    brianhood No Care Ever

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    yes! It's just a small part of a much larger guitar tone segment.
     
  3. Heabow

    Heabow More cowbell!

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    ^ Great!!
     
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    When making my band's first album I read and reread this thread every day! Awesome.
     
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    Love all of the information in this thread. One thing that I wasn't clear on is how do you guys mix the two mics after recording. Early in the thread, it's mentioned to have the on-axis signal lower than the off-axis, but somewhere Glenn mentions the opposite. Just curious if I've misread parts of the thread.
     
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    I would assume the off-axis is a lot louder just by listening to the tone. It has that thick, gnarly sound you get from an off-axis mic. I think the on-axis is brought in just enough to give it the high-end you want.
     
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    Thanks for bringing this thread back to life! I'm just now getting familiarized with Glenn and his YouTube channel, so it's awesome to read a thread when he's askign for guidance, like the rest of us.
     
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    I personally mixed my off-axis mic in about 6 to 10 db quieter than the on-axis mic.

    100% on-axis mic=too bright
    100% off-axis mic=too dark
    50/50= combined to be too bassy

    the more I lowered the off-axis mic, the more high end that came through. I just reduced it until I found the perfect balance.
     
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    That's what my observation has been. I didn't care for the off-axis mic to be louder, but the other way sounded better to me. Would like to test it out more though.
     
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    Heabow More cowbell!

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    If I remember well, I read an old interview where Nordstrom says he used to do that way.
     
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    To add on what you've said, that's also what's written earlier in the thread, IIRC it was TheStoryteller that told us first about that method. :)
     
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    If anyone wants an easy way to do Fredman mic'ing without messing with two stands, I sell a special mic clip that latches two SM57's together at 45 degrees to make it easy. A lot easier to move it around and try different positions without lining the two mics up every time.

    Fredman mic'ing is bomb.

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    http://www.wilkinsonaudio.com/product/fredman-mic-clip/

    Cheers,

    Alex
     
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    That's an awesome idea. Never got to mess with fredman, but I absolutely have to give it a shot one day.
     
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    the last saturday I reamped guitars for a metalcore band called LIE FOR A SECRET through a 6505, a marshall cabinet loaded with v30s and two sm57 with the fredman technique, B position, and it sounds great!
    Very good and pleasant sound to the ears, it needed very very little eq just to fit the mix and it's awesome.
    Also I reamped the bass with the same rig :-D just rolled off the resonance and the gain knob :-D
     
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    could you please re-upload your mp3 track with Nordstrom Mics.mp3?and lso your 5150 combo mic pics?thank you again
     
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    rapucore i really hate spiders

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    Nearly a decade old clip and pics he most likely will not have anymore? Good luck with that.
     

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