oh also, i'd like to add ben grosse consistently delivers the hardest hitting and most pleasing heavy drums to listen to. they have so much weight and presence and you can listen to them all day. my personal fave. sheer power and very well tonally balanced. cla sometimes makes your ears hurt after a while, so does randy staub. andy wallace kick can sometimes be plastic-y. ben grosse is like perfection for me. that super super dampened kit. the kick suction, the snappy but not overly bright snare. it's really great. another good mixer who is very under-rated in hard rock is rich costley. the earshot album "two" has a great heavy sound. pretty grosse-esque.