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Discussion in 'GMD Social Forum' started by Jimmy... Dead., Jun 19, 2014.

  1. Einherjar86

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    David Koch, a philanthropist? I think they meant to say misanthropist.
     
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    At first I thought we'd lost Kochie!

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    David Koch died...
    i'm sure there's a crotch or cock joke in there somewhere
     
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    Koch was one of the worst open-border liberals.
     
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    He would have been a good open-border liberal in a world where we didn't have a massive entitlement state.
     
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    Don't forget the maids. God forbid a family use their own dishwasher or laundry machines.
     
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    Wait is that McCain's assbaby?
     
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    Ozzy Osbourne's assbaby.
     
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    This is local news for me, and I still call bullshit. There are enough legitimate landscapers around here that can and do only hire documented workers. I will admit that the majority of the workers are Mexican immigrants, and there are a fair amount of illegals doing work here, but I also know many crews with white guys as well (a friend of mine mows lawns). We do not need undocumented workers in order to satisfy the demand. The only reason why a lot of landscaping crews hire illegals is so that they don't have to pay our extreme NJ taxes. Malinowski is a fucking rat and so is governor Murphy.
     
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    When I was a kid we had this older Scottish guy as a landscaper. He was kind of the anti-Groundskeeper Willie, fat jolly Santa Claus-esque character. A lot of Vietnamese landscapers that I remember seeing as a kid as well back when San Diego was still 90% non-Hispanic white. I think today a lot of the Hispanic lawn services, i.e. the ones that are formal registered businesses, are probably owned by citizens but some of the labor doesn't seem literate in English, so I imagine it's kind of a hierarchy even within that community. Not sure how many people literally just grab a random group of Mexicans from Home Depot and pay them per-job. iirc the majority of illegal labor is still used in agriculture and slaughterhouses, i.e. big business. Of course, if slaughterhouses were forced to pay a competitive wage, you'd see meat prices skyrocket.
     
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    Probably not skyrocket, but go up, yeah. Much of slaughtering is automated and unskilled.
     
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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/politics/hereby-order-donald-trump/index.html

    This article was written either by a child or someone intentionally trying to mislead people. Probably a mix of both. The government can absolutely tell the private sector what to do through various means, wtf is he even going on about. Now, can the President order a company to close up shop in another country? More tricky. But at a minimum, since he can order tariffs, he since he could make tariffs on American companies shipping things back into the country so high it may as well be.
     
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    It's a simplistic article appropriate for a news agency that actually publishes stories containing "Ugh. Really?", but practically, it's not exactly wrong. Trump has no chance of signing any legislation to move companies out of China. Best chance, aside from tariffs (which come with negative short-term consequences for his election chances), he can try to get the Senate to write some kind of free trade agreement to grant extra favors to China's neighbors, though we've already had free-trade arrangements with countries like Vietnam and Malaysia for over a decade. I don't think the author is wrong in that Trump's threats are toothless. If maybe Trump called out Congressmen and Senators by name for having approved China's most-favored-nation status, or if he had smart people on his team willing to draw up legislation to enact Trump's goals, his threats would carry a lot more weight.

    I mean, presidents in general can do very little these days without the approval of a thousand unelected bureaucrats. The presidency has hardly ever been weaker, war powers aside.
     
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    You didn't address my specific critique. Am disappoint.
     
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    I did. Tariffs are a risky proposal that American consumers end up paying for. They also make wealthy stockholders jittery and prone to sell-offs and dropping index prices, which causes Trump to whine to the Fed via Twitter. Maybe it will pay off in the long-run, it will take time for competition in Vietnam, Malaysia, Thailand, Bangladesh, etcetc to become viable replacements for Chinese goods, but Trump doesn't have that kind of time.
     
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    You didn't address the China tariff, and I disagree with the rest. Trump is playing a game that must persist into a 2nd term.
     

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