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The Official Movie Thread

Discussion in 'GMD Social Forum' started by Manic Ferocity, May 4, 2007.

  1. no country for old wainds

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    funnily enough i haven't seen your favourite and you haven't seen mine (stranger than paradise, although down by law pushes it close)
     
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    Yeah. I don't remember it that well and I think I thought it dragged on a bit, but it had some funny scenes.

    I learned of it through seeing this photo of graffiti in Melbourne, though it used the wrong character's name:

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    CiG So Long Suckers

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    I really need to see the rest of his 80's filmography.
     
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    I'm very behind on this, but finally saw Villeneuve's Enemy. A visually arresting film, intriguing premise, with overtones of Kubrick, Lynch, and flourishes of Kafka--but narratively flat, I thought. The ending was far too abrupt.

    I could have done without the suggestion that one double was merely the imagined creation of the other, which I felt downplayed the agency of the wife and girlfriend characters, although the script tried to revitalize them. The visuals were certainly the best part, and not just the fucked up arachnid imagery; I also loved the cityscape shots, the attention to wiring and communication/surveillance networks. Obviously there are connections to the spider imagery here, the implication being that the city's inhabitants are caught in a web. I wished the film would have developed these symbolic notions into more significant narrative elements. For example, I wanted the premise to link up more meaningfully with the film's clear interests in surveillance, control, state apparatuses. I don't think we can chalk the story up to its protagonist suffering from delusional paranoia--or if we can, that feels underwhelming. It toyed with taking a speculative turn, but maybe there was studio pressure not to go that route. I haven't read anything about the film, so I can't be sure.

    But fuck me, those visuals:

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  5. no country for old wainds

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    i went long on enemy a few years back. i kinda liked it.
     
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    Good piece.

    Overall, I liked the film too--I'm just a sucker for narrative, and I appreciate when a film demonstrates a sense of narrative development/cohesion that mirrors its conceptual ambitions. I agree with you completely though on Villeneuve's almost neurotic command; it manages to overcome what might look silly or superfluous if handled by someone else.

    You'd recommend Spider, I take it? I also haven't seen that one.
     
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    Terry Jones has passed away at 77. He was always one of my favorite Pythons. RIP :(

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    CiG So Long Suckers

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    Damn I might be a hipster, because I don't see a future wherein this film isn't on my best of 2019 list. You guys are spot on about the arguments, the flow of the film with the way it weaved in and out of the mundanity of married life and the divorce process and then hitting you with a moment of heartache and agonizing emotional release was heavy stuff.

    Two actors I never much cared for gave what was probably the best performances of their careers so far, that was pretty exciting to see. In some places the story was cliche, but I guess divorce is so common these days that it's hard to avoid it coming across that way, and in some ways that's the true point of the film, that it's easy to look at other marriages and think "that'll never be us, we go perfectly together" and the next thing you know you've both hired lawyers who want to win at any cost, and in the meantime your child(ren) are wrenched into a tug-o-war of ego and spite.

    It was also really well shot I thought, there was a certain technical proficiency (though spartan unlike Spielberg for example) that really made it a joy to watch. The juxtaposition of an organized marriage slowly unraveling into chaos filmed with tight shots and crisp angles was very much appreciated. Out of all the Netflix originals I've seen this is in the top tier for sure.
     
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    CiG So Long Suckers

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    Watching another Hou Hsiao-Hsien picture today:

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    Tonight

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    Just finished Marriage Story, throughout the entire film I kept thinking that Squid and the Whale was so much better at capturing this phenomenon, and then realized the same director made this one. Why the hell did he come back to this topic?

    Trying to figure out how you thought this captured the relationship between these two at all. Maybe this would be true for a film like Blue Valentine, but this? At best it's about the internal conflict of being an actress & a mother versus a "genius" man & being a husband/father and the limitations of both characters

    And it's done pretty poorly. I don't know how Baumbach got so tame after perfectly capturing the pettiness of divorce in Squid , but the reactions were non standard -- how ridiculous was the fallout from the apartment argument and the low brow divorce hearings?

    And to preface it with saying "best performances" for two actors that never have been asked to do much. I don't agree this was better for Scarlett than Lost in Translation nor do I think this role was more difficult than anything Driver had to do in Girls.
     
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    Finally saw First Reformed. I'm not prepared to formulate significant thoughts yet; all I'll say for now is that it's spectacular, and that Ethan Hawke deserves more praise as an actor than any of the method-acting accolades getting tossed around these days. There are elements of method acting to his role, surely; but what makes the film is the severity of its narrative. I actually view Toller less as a character than as a device in that he simultaneously generates identification and dissociation from the audience. He's clearly a sympathetic character, but I think he's also meant to be an estranging character--which, of course, problematizes his effectiveness as a character (not a bad thing, in my book). At the heart of it is an interrogation of radicalism/fundamentalism, but I'm not sure I have a handle yet on the film's treatment of environmental issues.

    That surreal sequence during the physical intimacy ritual, though... damn.
     
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    Watched earlier

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    CiG So Long Suckers

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    In a sense it didn't and that's the point. It peeled back their thin facade of the perfect family and revealed that it was cold, dysfunctional and was really only kept alive because of a parental kinship.

    Well that was just my personal opinion, not meant to be taken objectively (hence why I prefaced it by saying they're two actors I'm not really a fan of). I need to rewatch Lost in Translation but I don't remember being especially impressed by ScarJo, though she wasn't bad or anything either. I haven't seen Girls because I'm not a faggot.
     
  15. Oblivious Maximus

    Oblivious Maximus I am the worm

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    No marriage/divorce movie will ever top Possession.
     
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    CiG So Long Suckers

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    Well, that's one way to start a film.
     
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    yeah it's pretty gay

    just saying I don't think this was ever a thing in this movie nor was it in the film's interest to do this
     
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    CiG So Long Suckers

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    Agree to disagree. Not going to pretend I understand your perspective on films much of the time.
     
  20. no country for old wainds

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    me, to people who think kaya scodelario getting all wet fighting off gators in her living room is a dumb idea:

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