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The World Cup 2014 Official Thread

Discussion in 'ProgPower USA Lounge' started by AngraRULES, Jun 6, 2014.

  1. Fire breath

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    Do you seriously blame me or are you just joking? You thought I was serious just now I bet. Oh no there I go betting again. Comedy over!
     
  2. AngraRULES

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    If you thought I was really serious, perhaps you should make a bet on it. :lol:
     
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    WTF????? I enjoy my sports.....probably more than I really should, but man is this very sad!!!:

    From Fox Sports:

    "A teenager in eastern Nepal committed suicide after her favorite team Brazil lost badly to Germany in the World Cup semifinals, police said Thursday.
    Police said the 10th grade student was depressed and hanged herself from the ceiling on Wednesday morning in Bharaul village located 400 kilometers (250 miles) east of the capital Katmandu.
    The teenager was identified as Pragya Thapa. Her mother found her hanging from the ceiling in her room. She was living with her mother and grandparents while her father was abroad working.
    Police said they were investigating and the body had been sent for autopsy.
    Brazil lost 7-1 to Germany in the semifinal on Tuesday."
     
  4. TENTH DREAMER DECEIVER

    TENTH DREAMER DECEIVER Halcyon Way Sufferer

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    Orwell got it right:


    George Orwell

    The Sporting Spirit

    Now that the brief visit of the Dynamo football team has come to an end, it is possible to say publicly what many thinking people were saying privately before the Dynamos ever arrived. That is, that sport is an unfailing cause of ill-will, and that if such a visit as this had any effect at all on Anglo-Soviet relations, it could only be to make them slightly worse than before.

    Even the newspapers have been unable to conceal the fact that at least two of the four matches played led to much bad feeling. At the Arsenal match, I am told by someone who was there, a British and a Russian player came to blows and the crowd booed the referee. The Glasgow match, someone else informs me, was simply a free-for-all from the start. And then there was the controversy, typical of our nationalistic age, about the composition of the Arsenal team. Was it really an all-England team, as claimed by the Russians, or merely a league team, as claimed by the British? And did the Dynamos end their tour abruptly in order to avoid playing an all-England team? As usual, everyone answers these questions according to his political predilections. Not quite everyone, however. I noted with interest, as an instance of the vicious passions that football provokes, that the sporting correspondent of the russophile News Chronicle took the anti-Russian line and maintained that Arsenal was not an all-England team. No doubt the controversy will continue to echo for years in the footnotes of history books. Meanwhile the result of the Dynamos' tour, in so far as it has had any result, will have been to create fresh animosity on both sides.
    And how could it be otherwise? I am always amazed when I hear people saying that sport creates goodwill between the nations, and that if only the common peoples of the world could meet one another at football or cricket, they would have no inclination to meet on the battlefield. Even if one didn't know from concrete examples (the 1936 Olympic Games, for instance) that international sporting contests lead to orgies of hatred, one could deduce it from general principles.

    Nearly all the sports practised nowadays are competitive. You play to win, and the game has little meaning unless you do your utmost to win. On the village green, where you pick up sides and no feeling of local patriotism is involved. it is possible to play simply for the fun and exercise: but as soon as the question of prestige arises, as soon as you feel that you and some larger unit will be disgraced if you lose, the most savage combative instincts are aroused. Anyone who has played even in a school football match knows this. At the international level sport is frankly mimic warfare. But the significant thing is not the behaviour of the players but the attitude of the spectators: and, behind the spectators, of the nations who work themselves into furies over these absurd contests, and seriously believe — at any rate for short periods — that running, jumping and kicking a ball are tests of national virtue.

    Even a leisurely game like cricket, demanding grace rather than strength, can cause much ill-will, as we saw in the controversy over body-line bowling and over the rough tactics of the Australian team that visited England in 1921. Football, a game in which everyone gets hurt and every nation has its own style of play which seems unfair to foreigners, is far worse. Worst of all is boxing. One of the most horrible sights in the world is a fight between white and coloured boxers before a mixed audience. But a boxing audience is always disgusting, and the behaviour of the women, in particular, is such that the army, I believe, does not allow them to attend its contests. At any rate, two or three years ago, when Home Guards and regular troops were holding a boxing tournament, I was placed on guard at the door of the hall, with orders to keep the women out.

    In England, the obsession with sport is bad enough, but even fiercer passions are aroused in young countries where games playing and nationalism are both recent developments. In countries like India or Burma, it is necessary at football matches to have strong cordons of police to keep the crowd from invading the field. In Burma, I have seen the supporters of one side break through the police and disable the goalkeeper of the opposing side at a critical moment. The first big football match that was played in Spain about fifteen years ago led to an uncontrollable riot. As soon as strong feelings of rivalry are aroused, the notion of playing the game according to the rules always vanishes. People want to see one side on top and the other side humiliated, and they forget that victory gained through cheating or through the intervention of the crowd is meaningless. Even when the spectators don't intervene physically they try to influence the game by cheering their own side and “rattling” opposing players with boos and insults. Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence: in other words it is war minus the shooting.

    Instead of blah-blahing about the clean, healthy rivalry of the football field and the great part played by the Olympic Games in bringing the nations together, it is more useful to inquire how and why this modern cult of sport arose. Most of the games we now play are of ancient origin, but sport does not seem to have been taken very seriously between Roman times and the nineteenth century. Even in the English public schools the games cult did not start till the later part of the last century. Dr Arnold, generally regarded as the founder of the modern public school, looked on games as simply a waste of time. Then, chiefly in England and the United States, games were built up into a heavily-financed activity, capable of attracting vast crowds and rousing savage passions, and the infection spread from country to country. It is the most violently combative sports, football and boxing, that have spread the widest. There cannot be much doubt that the whole thing is bound up with the rise of nationalism — that is, with the lunatic modern habit of identifying oneself with large power units and seeing everything in terms of competitive prestige. Also, organised games are more likely to flourish in urban communities where the average human being lives a sedentary or at least a confined life, and does not get much opportunity for creative labour. In a rustic community a boy or young man works off a good deal of his surplus energy by walking, swimming, snowballing, climbing trees, riding horses, and by various sports involving cruelty to animals, such as fishing, cock-fighting and ferreting for rats. In a big town one must indulge in group activities if one wants an outlet for one's physical strength or for one's sadistic impulses. Games are taken seriously in London and New York, and they were taken seriously in Rome and Byzantium: in the Middle Ages they were played, and probably played with much physical brutality, but they were not mixed up with politics nor a cause of group hatreds.

    If you wanted to add to the vast fund of ill-will existing in the world at this moment, you could hardly do it better than by a series of football matches between Jews and Arabs, Germans and Czechs, Indians and British, Russians and Poles, and Italians and Jugoslavs, each match to be watched by a mixed audience of 100,000 spectators. I do not, of course, suggest that sport is one of the main causes of international rivalry; big-scale sport is itself, I think, merely another effect of the causes that have produced nationalism. Still, you do make things worse by sending forth a team of eleven men, labelled as national champions, to do battle against some rival team, and allowing it to be felt on all sides that whichever nation is defeated will “lose face”.

    I hope, therefore, that we shan't follow up the visit of the Dynamos by sending a British team to the USSR. If we must do so, then let us send a second-rate team which is sure to be beaten and cannot be claimed to represent Britain as a whole. There are quite enough real causes of trouble already, and we need not add to them by encouraging young men to kick each other on the shins amid the roars of infuriated spectators.
    1945
    THE END
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    George Orwell: ‘The Sporting Spirit’
    First published: Tribune. — GB, London. — December 1945.
    Reprinted:
    — ‘Shooting an Elephant and Other Essays’. — 1950.
     
  5. Fire breath

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    The comedy continues...

    I have backed Holland to beat Brazil in the meaningless and worthless 3rd place play off. Actually the more I think about it the less I fancy Holland but anyway the deed is done. Go Orange!

    PS now is a good time to inquire at your bookie for the price on Brazil!
     
  6. AngraRULES

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    THANK GOD! :lol::lol::lol:
     
  7. Fire breath

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    My only regret is not putting more! The samba boys were abysmal yet again. Scolari on the way out. He should have never have taken the job on. You only tarnish your career as a former winner in 2002 if you don't win again. 10 goals shipped in 2 games. The boos at the end were horrible. Now come on Messi it's your time to prove you are the best. This is your chance for immortality otherwise you'll never be as great as the great cheat Diego.
     
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    Ok it's the final in half an hour. It's gonna be an epic night hopefully with an Argie win. Not that I like them in any way shape or form. Our friendship for tonight is strictly on a financial basis. Also I don't like seeing a smug German with his hands on the WC! Before the tournament started I backed Argentina to win and if they win I will pull some losses back. As a side bet my bookie was giving a special price on both teams to score in 90 minutes so I had a nibble at that as well. A 0-0 at 90 minutes or a 1-0 to Germany would be bad for me. I had a small bet on Germans to win on pens to get a few pennies back as well. Come on Messi, time to shine boy!
     
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    lame as shit 0-0. How this match stayed goalless I'll never know. I just hope the Argies do it now otherwise I will have had a bad WC. How the fuck has Higuain not scored in this match I'll never know. What a twat!
     
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    Way to go Germany!!!!
     
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    Goodbye WC for another 4 years. It's been an amazing festival of football in Brazil. Not happy the Germans won but the Argies will be having nightmares over the chances they missed tonight. It was truly unbelievable. To award Messi with the Golden Ball is also a complete joke. They guy was nowhere near player of the tournament. James Rodriguez was by far far the star of the show. Total injustice..however in the end Germany proved that individual brilliance can only take you so far and the team ethic reigns supreme so I begrudgingly say well done you bloody krauts! :)
     
  12. Taliwakker

    Taliwakker .....

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    Messi wasn't even the best player in his team this tourny...Javier Mascherano was.
    Being an England-er i didn't want either team to win lol....can't wait for the EPL to start again
     

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