This thread might seem like an effort to stir up trouble...at first but bear with me. Can black metal have verse/chorus/verse structure? I assumed BM usually had narrative or classical structure, or crafted minimalist epics like early Bathory or Darkthrone? Is BM about being "heavy?" I dont mean heavy like Pleasure To Kill or Despise The Sun, as in relentlessness or brutal technicality. I mean heavy the way Dark Funeral or Korn/Slipknot perceive heavy. What are some examples of cheesy or stereotypical BM lyrics? I dont mean bands. I mean like snippets or examples. What would be "good" BM lyrics? I want actual examples, if thats okay. The song content is not important. I'd prefer examples that deal with naturalism as opposed to anti-Christian ideals, though. I understand that these responses wont be purely objective. Try hard to be as factual as possible but I also want your opinions. If you havent figured out where Im going with this, Ill explain eventually. It's for a personal purpose. Right now Im just tossing this out as food for thought. Id really appreciate if the UM GMD community could help me find some concrete answers for these questions.