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Torn = Not good

Discussion in 'Evergrey' started by Janga666, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. Andiferum

    Andiferum My penis exploded

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    I don't really get the Evergrey criticism when you're clearly heavily into a (in my opinion) highly over-rated band that lacks melodic value.
     
  2. MetalBanger

    MetalBanger The Encounter

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    Please don't take Slayer as a professional and talented band...
     
  3. Janga666

    Janga666 Infamous Butcher

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    Ok, so you're saying that because I like Slayer I have no right to criticize the album Torn? That makes no sense to me at all.... are you saying that my musical judgement is wrong BECAUSE I like Slayer?? Can you say "ignorance"?

    After all, the only thing I was criticizing was the album, not the band in general.

    I didn't suggest that Slayer was a "professional and talented band".... even though I do think they are. I also think Evergrey is a "professional and talented band"... I just think that Torn is not a good album.

    There are Slayer albums that I don't like as well... it doesn't mean I have anything against the band... same with Evergrey.
     
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    For the record... Slayer, IS shit. ;)
     
  5. schenkadere

    schenkadere Obey my dog!

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    That's not fair to say. I'll bet they have a much bigger fan base than Evergrey. They aren't my cup of tea either, but they have their place. Reign In Blood was a tremendously influential album for extreme metal.

    I don't listen to them, but I wouldn't put someone down for enjoying the band.
     
  6. Metalrob4662

    Metalrob4662 Defender of the Faith

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    Ditto for me!:headbang:
     
  7. Janga666

    Janga666 Infamous Butcher

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    How did this turn into a Slayer bashing thread? Are some people that immature when someone criticizes the album that they have to attack things that have nothing to do with it?
     
  8. lecroix74

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    because you are furiously defending something that not many here care about. someone made a remark on yout avatar and you bought it...and now people are basically just taking the piss out of you. get it now? :loco: if you like Slayer then good for you. i don't
     
  9. ikoz

    ikoz i have been misslead

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    Dear janja666.
    i definatlly think you are right.
    i read all your posts & think it is very inteligent written.
    you did not insult anyone & just expressed your mind.
    you have to be a mature person to understand no band is perfect & to respect other people's views.
    lots of highly regarded bands made unmemrable records
    inc Dream theater,iron maiden,priest,metalica so evergrey is no exeption.

    live & let live.
    ikoz.
     
  10. stuh84

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    To something in the original post, bad production?

    Are you insane? It is as clear as anything, the sounds are great, what more could you want?

    MMA, while I liked the album, I cannot listen to it much because it had some of the worst guitar tone I've ever heard. Just so nasally and like everything had a wah pedal in front constantly, even the rhythm. Leave that to Michael Schenker please :)

    I still think the best sounding album so far has been In Search Of Truth, perfect mix of atmospherics and keys, while still having great instrument sounds (drums, guitars, vox, bass), its the kind of production I look up to. MMA is the kind of production I try to avoid with my own stuff.
     
  11. sailingarge

    sailingarge Marked by the triangle

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    Thats one of many things that make ME think ISoT is the best album ever made :worship:

    NP: Evergrey - Soaked (at work with my boss stright ahead of me)
     
  12. galtared

    galtared The great Deceiver

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    I agree. The whole music in this album is mixed perfectly! But i think recreation day is quite good as ISOT! Both albums are perfectly mixed. You can clearly hear all the instruments, at the same time!
     
  13. schenkadere

    schenkadere Obey my dog!

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    I hope that's not a Schenker knock...he's been an inconsistent character for many years now, but his early days were awesome and very influential. Maybe only us old farts can relate though.:lol:

    I agree...In Search of Truth is the best produced metal album I can think of. I never tire of that or The Inner Circle...absolute classics and perfect albums IMO.
     
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    I like all Evergrey albums for different reasons. I think its good for a band not to make the same album twice. But my favorite album has to be The Inner Circle. I think its a perfect album. The production, songwriting, vocals, riffs, melodies, choruses, and atmosphere are all top notch.
     
  15. schenkadere

    schenkadere Obey my dog!

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    Finally purchased Torn....what the hell isn't good? It's a fine album...maybe not as brilliant as The Inner Circle, but certainly a fine album...definitely up there as one of my favorite 2008 releases...along with Scar Symmetry's Holographic Universe.
     
  16. Janga666

    Janga666 Infamous Butcher

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    Below is a quote of my first post in this thread as to why I do not like Torn:

     
  17. schenkadere

    schenkadere Obey my dog!

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    I agree that there is no stand out track...but I guess I'm not seeing it as over hyped, so I wasn't disappointed.
     
  18. Janga666

    Janga666 Infamous Butcher

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    i don't think it's over-hyped, just that a lot of people do praise it (even in this thread). In my opinion it is one of Evergrey's worst albums.
     
  19. The Wicked One

    The Wicked One Still menacing

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    lol it could be that all the songs stand out so much that the greatness is mistaken for mediocraty.....:lol:

    in any sense I like it.
    For me the darker the better.
     
  20. chaosnovaxz

    chaosnovaxz New Metal Member

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    It's definitely one of their worst, but I still enjoy it to no end. A bad Evergrey album is still a phenomenal album when compared with another band's record. :p
     

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