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Discussion in 'Symphony X (Unofficial)' started by Divine X, Jan 28, 2004.

  1. WhiskyLover

    WhiskyLover Ultimate Whisky Lover

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    This is my opinion, people always tend to compare any new albums out with some other old alumbs, i believe this has been said earlier but ill just say it again, eg. Dreamtheater : images and words. Symphon X : divine wings.

    Your whole pereception will change once you take the album as an item by itself and not something you expect to be similar to another album. Hey its prog metal, you cant expect everything to be similiar all the time. This is what makes both bands great and they will last forever unlike pop Sh!t like...*cough* brit *cough* ney *cough*
    10 years down the road, who will be remembered more?
     
  2. Dressed To Kill

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    I didn't like the album, I'm just not too fond of heavy music, I expected more speed or something typical of DT.
     
  3. anonymousnick2001

    anonymousnick2001 World's Greatest Vocalist

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    I hoped for another Falling Into Infinity.

    That album was so...epic.
     
  4. adam123

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    i think train of thoughts is a pretty cool album!
    although compare to Images And Words, Awake and A Change Of Seasons
    it isn't such masterpiece
    i think it's much better then Falling Into Infinity which i really didn't like and
    of course much better then Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence which is a piece of shit!
     
  5. Velocity

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    SDOIT is a killer album, I really like it, The Great Debate is just :loco: really heavy!
     
  6. The Stormbringer

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    And a great live song!
     
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    You bet, The Great Debate in Oslo OMFG! What a pressure there was while the played the song!
     
  8. JHawk

    JHawk Dream Within A Dream

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    Alright, so I like ToT, but I tend to more favour prog stuff more along the lines of The Odyssey and A Night At the Opera. More keyboard solos =) What else can you recommend for Dream Theater?
     
  9. WhiskyLover

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    If you favour prog stuff along the lines of The Odyssey, you gotta hear A change of seasons then, its a 20 minute + song. And also, metrepolis part 2 scenes from a memoryits an album,do check it out.
     
  10. Walkiria

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    I'm a huge Dt fan and have been since I started listening to metal; although I prefer earlier works, such as IAW, I don't think ToT is that terrible... I quite liked "in the name of God" and since I saw DT live a the 5th of feb, I like the rest much more.

    cheers :headbang:
     
  11. Lonnie Tate's Forearms

    Lonnie Tate's Forearms Here, gimme your dick....

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    Definitely listen to a change in seasons, it's one of my favorite songs. Labrie seems to sing a lot better on that song than most others. As for TOT, I think it is a pretty solid album. I think it's cool that they just put out a straight metal album like that, and to be honest I wouldn't mind seeing symphony x put out an album like that, because I have a feeling it would turn out better than TOT.
     
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    Train of Thought, in my opinion, is DT's worst album. the song writing is weaker, the riffs are typical... it is basically a perfect example of a great band trying to get radio play.
     
  13. Lonnie Tate's Forearms

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    Well I don't know if they could really expect much radio play with songs that are 7-10+ minutes long.
     
  14. Lonnie Tate's Forearms

    Lonnie Tate's Forearms Here, gimme your dick....

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    One thing that is annoying about the album is the voice effect Labrie uses sometimes that makes him sound like he's under water. Also he actually tries to rap, and let's just say he's not good at it.
     
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    Yeah, the rapping thing kinda threw me off. Had to make sure I had the right CD in..

    ..oh, and thanks for the CD suggestions, once I get some more money, I'll pick them up.
     
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    I thought it was good, but definitely not their best. It is decidedly heavier than their previous releases. John used the new Mesa RoadKing on this one almost exclusively, as opposed to his more prevalent MKIIC+ tone. I still think I&W or Awake is better overall.
     
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    Of course. In my opinion, anybody who wouldn´t agree to you would be thoroughly wrong. "Images and Words" and "Awake" stand alone as the epitomes and definite masterpieces of 90s Prog Metal, maybe even all of Prog Metal. "Train of Thought", as good and entertaining as it is, just never reaches that level of perfection. The instrumental wankery, although highly impressive and spectacular, seems out of place sometimes and also distracts from the context of the song (like in "In the Name of God").
    Don´t get me wrong, I really enjoy TOT, but more like I enjoy a highly technical Metal album than a Prog milestone.
     
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    TOT is definitely not my cup of tea. My tastes go more to prog and less to metal, and this album is pretty-much all metal. Endless, pointless shredding goes on way too long. Metal lovers obviously like it. Would not be on the bottom of my DT list, though. That spot goes to Awake. I can't stand it when James screams, and that's almost all he does on that one. It's like nails on a chalk-board. Has some good moments though, like Erotomania and 6:00, but I can't stomach the rest of it.
     
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    Hehe... nice to see how different opinions can be. As far as I´m concerned, "Awake" was James´ finest performance. :)
     
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    Sorry I missed this question! No, I didn't enjoy 6doit either, but I think ToT is a better album than that (they both made their way to ebay though and found a better home).

    I guess I'm not as metal as DT are. I think my ears are also tired of all those low B and C notes.

    I don't hear the finesse and attention to detail that comes from writing and reworking songs over time rather than slapping them together in a few weeks. It almost seems like DT has become a side project of it's former self when less regard is given for time to work it's magic on the tunes. The lyrics and vocal melodies are what seem to suffer the most with that approach. The phrasing of the vocal lines seem awkward because they haven't had time to grow, and they don't have a timelessness that some of DT's better thought out tunes.

    I guess that's the only way I describe why it's not floating my boat. I still have great respect for them and their accomplishments and I wouldn't say never when it comes to checking out where they go from here.
     

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