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Uniting the Powers of Metal: East Coast Roll Call!!!

Discussion in 'ProgPower USA' started by Metal_Camden, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. The_Metal_Messiah

    The_Metal_Messiah Dr Feelgood/Dropdown Suzi

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    Thanks for the kind words about The Shield everybody! :D Sorry we're not boring enough for you. Sorry we have fun on stage. Sorry we want people to have fun at our shows. This is fucking METAL. Its about the FUN! Not about standing in the back with your arms crossed like a bunch of boring douchebags.
     
  2. PatrickHoyt

    PatrickHoyt The Darkitecht

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    Its called discretion Nathan. Perhaps it would be wise for you to consider that. You attract more bees with honey than vinegar.
     
  3. Fizrider

    Fizrider Quasi-Old Fart

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    Classic. My ribbing was in good nature, btw. You guys DO have a lot of energy, and after hearing you sing, I actually want to hear your Motley Crue show.

    But, you know, if you don't want an old boring douchebag to pay to hear you play, that's cool, too.
     
  4. nailz

    nailz Member

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    If people are trying to figure out whether or not they're enjoying your performance, I can assure you which side of the fence they're going to land on by calling them douchebags.

    You've already alienated me from wanting to check out your band.
     
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    I dig The Shield's stuff a lot. No reason to skip out on checking a good band's music for reasons like this. After all this is a genre full of murderers, arsonists, drug addicts, alcoholics, and deviants. Calling unnamed people 'douchebags' is probably on the lower end of the asshole scale.



    Look forward to checking you out more. You should hook up with some more local shows -- we have a great scene. Ex: 150 people showing up on Saturday night to see 4 local bands (one of which Hoyt has booked before, Sadistic Ritual, and has improved beyond all belief....a force to be reckoned with for sure).
     
  6. Rider of Theli

    Rider of Theli The Hellequin

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    Nathan, I do not see a single negative comment in this first section; nothing but the truth. Someone who was at both the Pathfinder Metalfest and now this show 9 months later found that you had significantly improved.

    And you stated that you like to have fun on stage and then referred to people in the audience as 'boring douchebags'? The writer of this article noted:

    So even though I was on the door during your entire set, that tells me that enough people were indeed having fun during your show.

    THIS you should have expected after losing two drummers in a few months' time:

    And if you think the white Motley Crue t-shirt is doing you any favors as the lead singer of a heavy metal band (as opposed to the Dr Feelgood sleeze-rock band), then as I stated in a private email this morning, you are wrong. You will get critiqued/ribbed for it from a few people as you have here already:

    The Shield brought out about 10-12 paying people in the crowd of 75. I often attempt to help the up and coming local acts try to find more of an audience by tacking them onto a bigger show such as this. I could just as easily put any number of other bands on the show if I wanted to sell more than an extra 10-12 tickets.

    Yeah, I was trying to help you. But you aren't helping yourself. And in doing so, you're making both of your bands and me look bad. So take a step back, breathe, and think before you bring a knife back into a gunfight. That's the only advice I can offer you at this point.
     
  7. nailz

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    I find that respect is a two way street. The Shield plays to 10 people, and then calls everyone else douchebags for not being into their music.

    Dave Mustaine injures his shoulder, apologizes in advance for any screwups caused by his injury to 10,000+ people, and then plays it perfectly.

    It's pretty obvious who gives a shit about the people he's trying to reach out to.
     
  8. ApolloFC

    ApolloFC Sax-Man

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    I didn't want to say it at first reading, but this. And don't forget that I was watching Widow when they played to 3-4 non event/band related people and was still having fun at midnight or whatever time in raleigh. I've never heard of The Shield until now and now I'm not interested in checking them out. Widow wins
     
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    So wait a second...

    The Shield drew 12 people to the show, put on a fun performance but complained and offended the ones who chose to stay at the bar and wait until they were finished? I think if you can't take criticism or people not into your set, you shouldn't be doing this.
     
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    Dragon KLaw Shadow Lurker

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    Hey, despite the comments from the local opener band, thanks for coming to the Uniting the Powers of Metal show in Atlanta. Arm crossed or not, you are A PAYING CUSTOMER who came to support our tour. I appreciate you being there for that man. I hope you enjoyed the show. :)
     
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    Dragon KLaw Shadow Lurker

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  13. Dragon KLaw

    Dragon KLaw Shadow Lurker

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    AngraRULES - just sent you a PM
     
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    It blows my mind that the same forum that regularly clamors for Devin Townsend to come back to play the fest is up in arms for someone making a general statement about people looking visibly bored at a concert. Could it have been more tactful? Maybe. Is it a big deal? No. Believe me -- not everyone who plays in a band is 'respectful'. The comments at the show weren't even malicious...how many times have you seen a headlining band tell the crowd to cheer again because the first time wasn't loud enough? Geeze. It's showmanship, nothing more.

    And for what it's worth, I ACTUALLY STOOD IN THE BACK WITH MY ARMS CROSSED DURING THEIR SET!!!!! I AM A DOUCHEBAG!!!
     
  15. J. Golden

    J. Golden Heaven and Hell Records

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    Thumbs up to you buddy. I totally agree with you. But hey just wait, when you are on the cover of the magazine suddenly arms will be uncrossed and out to shake your hand and tell you they were always a fan. That is when you know which ones are douchebags.
    Or perhaps they just did not like the band...
     
  16. ApolloFC

    ApolloFC Sax-Man

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    We know who Devin Townsend is. We don't know The Shield.

    FTR telling a crowd to cheer again cause it wasn't loud enough is nothing like calling a crowd douchebags. I mean I saw the Stone Temple Pilots when they played the midtown festival in 2002 and the lead singer simply said we were boring and told us to have an orgy or something (seriously lol). He didn't call us douchebags (although the band did finish after 30 minutes when it was a 40 minute slot.. dunno if that was planned or not though)
     
  17. Dragon KLaw

    Dragon KLaw Shadow Lurker

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    [QUOTE Could it have been more tactful? Maybe. Is it a big deal? No. Believe me -- not everyone who plays in a band is 'respectful'. The comments at the show weren't even malicious...how many times have you seen a headlining band tell the crowd to cheer again because the first time wasn't loud enough? Geeze. It's showmanship, nothing more.

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    The problem that I have with that is that for a headlining band, most of the fans are there for that band and the expect the band/crowd exchanges. They already have an established fanbase. The prodding is usually done in good taste and is expected and to some degree encouraged.
    But for me, this was not the case here. This is a local opening band that was intended to help sell tickets and get a chance for exposure to a larger fanbase. Of the 75, only 12 were there to see you. That leaves 63 there for somebody else. Now for starters, did all of your fans stick around and cheer on the other bands? My hunch says probably not. Then why should you expect that from the other bands fans?
    Look, I am not here to argue. And I agree that the comments were not malicious. Definiely not wisely worded, granted. The problem started for me when the douchebag comment was made. If it had been stated that the crowd participation was less than desirable, I am fine with that. But when you start with name calling when you are still trying to establish somewhat of a loyal following. I take that personally and you will loose my support.
    I respect the fact that you do not think it is a big deal. I am not here to argue that. You stated your opinion. I stated mine. Time to move on for me.
     
  18. SkiBumMSP

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    I know I am late to the party here. I was at the Jaxx show and thought it was friggan AWESOME! Had a blast hanging out with the various bands, plus I FINALLY got to see Seven Kingdoms play (after at least two previous chances that did not work for me - the first being the cancellation of Titon Power Cruise and the second being the poor timing (right before Christmas when I had to go to PA) and subsequent complete sell out of the Blind Guardian show at Jaxx (I tried, despite the Christmas thing, and there was not a ticket to be found ANYWHERE). So it was cool to finally get to see Camden play. Of course, I was stoked to see Creation's End, as well as also getting to see Artizan (and getting a copy of their album). Widow was completely new to me and I was blown away by them. I ended up buying both of their CD's, plus Chris was just a really cool guy that I got to shoot the shit with for a bit of time. I hope I get to see these guys again. I know it is just a few days before ProgPower, but I am still seriously contemplating taking a train up to Brooklyn to see that Creation's End/Voyager show. The opening instrumental act was actually pretty good (although I did not get their name, plus I showed up half-way into their set as I was coming in straight from work that evening). The second band just did not do it for me.

    About Adrenaline Mob, say what you want, hate-em or love-em, but to me, I was pretty stoked just to get to see Russel Allen again. I thought they put on a good, straight-up balls-to-the-walls old-school style metal show. I enjoyed the set and ended up buying the EP.

    As for all this business with regards to The Shield, hey I am certain worst sins have been committed by bigger bands, but I do agree that it can be taken as poor taste to basically call out anybody that may not be into the set a "boring douchebag". Not exactly the best way to win over new fans there. I agree with the one post, ignore the ones that may not be into the set and concentrate on the ones that are.

    Anyway, overall, I thought this was an awesome show. Would've loved to see a bigger turnout, but hey, at least I did my part to support it, despite being on a Wednesday night, and having to be at a meeting that following morning at 9 AM (thank God I only live but 5 minutes from work - less than a mile, so I can at least sleep in somewhat and still make it on time, which I managed to do).
     
  19. nailz

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    If you're talking about me, I could not give 2 fucks on a shit sandwich about Devin Townsend. I can't stand the guy. If he ended up back at Progpower, I would certainly not be caught dead watching his set. I know his whole on stage schick is being a massive asshole, but I don't enjoy that kind of shit in any sense of the spirit it's supposed to be received in. It's disrespectful and disgusting, IMO, and I don't choose to subject myself to such selfish arrogance. No one who pulls this crap is gods gift to music.

    I will say, from what I've heard, that DT is actually quite a great guy off the stage and while interacting, so I'll give him that, and I can see why people would get a big kick out of it, and that's fine. I'm sure the room would be filled for a set with him, it just wouldn't have me, and neither will a band that demonstrates arrogance and jackassery OFF the stage as well as on.
     
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    That's the general consensus here, and because everyone keeps reporting what a great time they had, we definitely consider this whole thing worth it. Thank you for coming out duder. :D
     

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