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Want practice augmenting drums, guitar tones, mixing and mastering? Files inside

Discussion in 'Practice Room' started by Whammy, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. Whammy

    Whammy New Metal Member

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    Right I've decided to donate some of my multitrack files for anyone who wants practice.
    If you want practice getting guitar tones, mixing drums and augmenting them, general mixing and or mastering then grab the files and have fun

    Some notes on the files:
    This is a 2 minute segment of one of my tracks with a lot of changes.
    This is the segment
    [SOUNDCLOUD]https://soundcloud.com/thatsoundswhammy/whammys-master/s-BmMyK[/SOUNDCLOUD]

    The drums are Superior Drummer - Metal Foundry.
    However I don't mix within the program itself. I mix them on separate channels within my DAW, the same way as I would mix drums I've recorded.
    Normally when I mix recorded drums I will sub-group the kick mics together and the snare mics together and process them as one kick and one snare. I'll only do that method if the mics are recorded well. Otherwise I have to get in and fix shit before sub-grouping.
    So the top snare, bottom snare etc are bounced as one channel, same with the kick in and out mics.

    The drum channels are as follows:
    Kick (mono) - removed any spill
    Snare (mono) - removed any spill
    Tom1 (stereo) - removed any spill
    Tom2 (stereo) - removed any spill
    Tom3 (stereo) - removed any spill
    Overheads (stereo) - Toms, kick & snare turned down but still present
    Ambience or Room (stereo)

    Although some files are stereo I rarely leave them panned hard left and right except for the room mics which I treat more as reverbs.
    The reason being is to give a balanced stereo image of the drums from the HiHats to the Ride with the ambience taking up more of the sides.
    I felt the snare was lacking a bit of thump. EQing it in wasn't really a good option. The snare just doesn't have it to add.
    So I did some drum augmenting.
    I added in another snare (one with more thump) and blended it in with the original. The original already has dynamics and subtle nuances in the playing so I only used one snare sample to add in some thump. I automated the dynamics to match but didn't use different hits from the same snare.
    The reason for this was to add some consistency with the tone. The subtle nuances are still left intact, it just has a bit more balls now.
    I left the snare sample that I used out of the multi-track so you can use your own and experiment

    The bass is DI'd straight in. It's a Warwick Thumb Bolt-on 5-String using the stock pickups. I only used the bridge pickup because the added low end from the neck pickup really didn't help with the fast playing.
    It's a bit thin but the low end (quiet as it is) is still tight.

    Guitars are DI'd straight in. All guitar parts are a Ibanez UV777pbk. The rhythms are the bridge pickup (BKP Blackhawk) and the solo is the neck pickup (BKP Blackhawk).
    During the solo I managed to press the strings off the pickups which is heard in the DI but didn't come through after processing so I left it :p
    Two rhythm tracks, one solo track.

    The DI used was just the crappy built in one on the Mbox Pro.

    I mixed the track with the intention of adding vocals so there is space left in my mix for the vocals, which I will be recording at some stage so when I do I will up date this with the vocal tracks and it should add another dimension to this.

    The tempo is 122BPM and the music kicks in after one bar. There are a few time signature changes but the tempo is always constant.

    The master is at an average level of commercially released metal. So if you want to practice mastering to a commercial level you really want to aim for the same loudness.
    Obviously the percussive instruments will take a hit when mastered to this level but it's just a balance of getting volume while trying to maintain as much quality as you can.

    I've uploaded the tracks to my soundcloud page where you can download them.
    All the files are in here and downloadable (I also put my version up for download if you want to use it as a reference):
    This is a link to the set. Soundcloud won't allow "set" downloads. Click each file and you'll see the download button"
    https://soundcloud.com/thatsoundswhammy/sets/mixmaster-practice/s-BmMyK


    If there is enough demand and if people are gaining from the experience I'll upload the full song and update it with vocals once they are done
    There are subtle guitar layers in other parts of the song and a quick little clean bit.
    I left out those bits because setting up your DAW to match the time signature changes for those parts will be a pain if you've never done it before. A few 11/16 bars in there
    The HiHat mic is also used haha

    I have multi-tracks which would be more suited for advanced mixing.
    Stupid amount of guitar layers, guitars mimicking synths, a few synths as well and a crazy amount of automation to bring it all together.
    Before that though I want to see if the above multi-track is of any use to people :)

    If you have any questions feel free to ask
    Enjoy.
     
  2. Donovan S.

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    Links don't work.
     
  3. Whammy

    Whammy New Metal Member

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    Whoops my bad. Fixed now.
     
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    The song and guitar playing are awesome!
     
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    Whammy New Metal Member

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    Cheers man :)
     
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    cheers for the tracks, i'll have more of this please!!! :kickass:

    I also do the same when using SDx, i think that the bounce feature is one of the best things about it, allows bedroom warrior raw (tracks) whores (like myself) everywhere to play at being CLA.

    Oh, if you're putting vocals to this monster, I suggest not fapping for a week or two 1st.
     
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    Will definitely be trying this out! Thanks!
     
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    XxSicRokerxX Gabriel R.

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    Here's mine:
     
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    Whammy New Metal Member

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    Wow it's great to see people getting use out of this :)
    Always nice to hear how other people approach a mix.

    If anyone wants feedback just ask and I'd be happy to give it.
     
  14. XxSicRokerxX

    XxSicRokerxX Gabriel R.

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    lol, it does indeed sound like it, i didnt do much processing on the bass di, thats what you hear ahah.
     
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    That would be nice as im just starting to get into mixing metal. This is my first metal mix that sounds decent.
     
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    Feedback would be great for mine.
     
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    I see what you're saying. Gonna mess with it a bit more.

    EDIT: Messed with it a bit more.
     
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    awesome mix! good job on the kick :headbang: loving that natural snare :worship: but maeby its 1db too loud?

    whaMix2
    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1159812/WhamMix2.mp3
     
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    xIcarusx New Metal Member

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    I came here looking for some raw tracks to desperately try to improve my mixing and I'm glad I did.

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1090583/WhammyMasterMix.mp3

    This is my first mix version of the song that I did two days ago. Then I listened to the others versions on here and realized it was time for me to really learn how to "properly" mix a song.

    So I followed up a couple of tutorials and experimented a little bit trying to come close to something like what Habsburgs did and this is what my 1743700th mix sounds like.

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1090583/WhammyMaster(2).wav

    It's definitely not perfect and I'm not happy with a lot of things, (especially the guitar tone) but I feel like I've improved quite a bit for the past two days and so I would like to thank you for posting these tracks! Also, I'd love to hear the full song when it's done because so far it's pretty sick!
     

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