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Discussion in 'GMD Social Forum' started by Einherjar86, May 16, 2018.

  1. Einherjar86

    Einherjar86 Active Member

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    So, I know there are a few threads dedicated to science, but they're all specifically for debating scientific issues, addressing scientific misconceptions, or addressing specific scientific questions. There isn't really a thread for science per se, or for new developments/discoveries in science.

    As many here know... I'm not a scientist. :cool: But as many here also know, I'm obsessed with reading about science and have a particular fascination with unexpected, unsettling, or confusing scientific discoveries. I'll just go ahead and call this "weird science" for the fun of it (and yeah, for the sci-fi angle: https://io9.gizmodo.com/finally-a-novel-about-weird-science-thats-genuinely-w-1528348041)

    This thread is intended to share and discuss the incredible, unbelievable, disturbing, confusing, and just fucked up discoveries from the sciences. I realize this topic could fit in the "News" thread or possibly in the "Dakryn" thread, but both of those tend to attract political and philosophical topics, and also tend to invite debate. I think this thread would be best served by keeping debates out of it. If debate does ensue, then I'd ask that those involved move it to another space (for instance, the scientific debate thread started by Cyth way back in the day; the Dakryn thread is also a fitting place to discuss disagreements in methodology, theory, and practice). This doesn't mean that we can't ask each other questions about methodology, theory, and practice in this thread; if you're unclear about how researchers are arriving at their findings, then feel free to say so and ask for more info. All I ask is that argument about methods and theories be moved to other threads.

    Try to include a brief comment along with your link so people have an idea what the post is about. I'd suggest that we try to limit discussion to the hard sciences (physics, biology, chemistry, astronomy, geology, climatology, oceanology, etc.), but I don't want that to be a strict rule (if you want to debate the difference between hard and soft sciences, then I'll see you in the Dakryn thread :p). For example, it's fine if someone wants to share some strange or counter-intuitive finding in sociology or anthropology; but be warned that such findings often lend themselves to political debate more easily than those in the hard sciences.

    As a final note, I realize that what some people find unbelievable or fucked up may not appear unbelievable or fucked up to everyone, especially those more familiar with the particulars of a given science. If you have more knowledge about a given science than someone else, don't berate them for not understanding it; just kindly and patiently explain things from your perspective (yeah I know, this is asking a lot--try to slow your rolls ladies and gents, jadies and lents, steers and queers, however you be).

    I'll kick it off with a topic appropriate to a metal forum: https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/01/crypt-keeper-wasps-parasites-new-species/

    The article is from last year, but this is the first I'm hearing about it. Parasitic wasps creep the hell out of me, and this little fucker is just the absolute worst.

     
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    Some low-hanging fruit to contribute:
    https://www.livescience.com/61258-strangest-science-of-2017.html

     
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    Carpe Mortem Benevolently Batshit

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    I ended up on a clickbait rabbit hole from Elon Musk's hot young girlfriend announcement, and found the Roko's Basilisk theory interesting. Not because it's believable whatsoever but because even tech focused high thinkers still find a way to shove punishment and reward into their destinies.


    Https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk
     
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    was hoping this would be a thread about the movie. One of the main stars, Ilan Mitchell-Smith, was one of my professors in grad school. Super cool guy
     
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    A wild unknown appears!
     
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    This stuff is so cool. Article is from last year, but this is the first I'm hearing about it. I got to see the Arecibo radio telescope in Puerto Rico (no idea what condition it's in now) and it was incredible--so massive. A global radio telescope is a pretty awesome feat, and hopefully yields some new results.

    I'm also fascinated by black holes, so there's that.

    https://gizmodo.com/scientists-are-turning-earth-into-a-telescope-to-see-a-1793019946
     
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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-new-understanding-of-universe-idUSKBN1K229S
     
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    This is fucking incredible:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2...ed-in-cbc-documentary-inseparable_a_23267420/

    http://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=8169

     
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    Very interesting, but I don't share Watts' "squeeing" on it. My first reaction is "damn that is unfortunate." All of the issues of being conjoined, and then throw diabetes etc on top of it, and then you have researchers (or voyeurs) who want to treat you like a piece of meat.
     
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    Yeah, rough on th miracle part lol
     
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    Watts isn't much for sentimentality.

    As far as it being unfortunate, I've often found that disabled people and those with debilitating conditions prefer not to be pitied. I share in Watts's excitement even while I hope the girls aren't treated in disrespectful ways. Researchers can balance scientific interests with ethics concerns; they just need to be thoughtful. Given that there is so little media coverage, it seems their family has managed to secure some considerable degree of privacy.

    If there's some insight to be gleaned from the study of their brain, then I hope it is.
     
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    CiG Salute of the Jugger

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    Vintage weird pop-science.

    I love these old CSIRO videos from decades ago.
    I used to have a VHS with a bunch of these taped from TV when I was a kid, CSIRO videos are so boring now.



     
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    yasssssss. Good stuff.

    I remember reading about the storms on Saturn and Jupiter when I was young. The geometry of these things is insane. I really wish that I could have been both a literature scholar and a physicist, because I enjoy thinking on these topics but don't have the skills in differential equations and chaos math to really wrap my brain around them.

    My wife and I were chatting this morning about the expansion of the universe (which she occasionally entertains me on). This is just the opening gambit from wikipedia, which I still have trouble internalizing:

    Put another way, the metric of expanding spacetime actually can move faster than light, meaning there are some objects whose light will never reach us (hence the limit of what astronomers and physicists call the "observable universe"). This is fascinating to me. Also fascinating that the universe doesn't expand "into" anything.
     
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    astronomy really is the bomb. and the limitations to which they use mathematical properties is awesome as well
     
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    The implications of length contraction & time dilation are also quite mind-blowing. The closer to the speed of light an explorer can travel, the shorter the distance to a destination becomes from their perspective. So in theory even with current life expectancies it could be possible to send astronauts to stars 100+ light years from Earth with a good chance that they're still alive when they get there. Though in reality I imagine aging is the easier challenge to conquer.
     
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    That blows my mind man. Astrophysics and all that shit is amazing. What really brought it home to me is when it was explained that any given star I can see in the sky may have already gone supernova because what you're seeing is an old image of the star because of the distance and we womt know it went nova for years or decades.
     
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