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What do you think about Iconoclast?

Discussion in 'Symphony X (Unofficial)' started by clafalc, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. Prismatic Sphere

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    Agreed.

    And if those who state that Iconoclast has more consistency due to nearly every song sounding the same(like an AC/DC record[though more complex]), then I also agree.
     
  2. Detective Clarence Beauregard

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    Hilarious, as I happen to be snacking on peanuts right now.

    While I agree that tracks 5, 6, and 7 are filler (not Medusa as much) when compared to the rest of the album, you'll be hard-pressed to find many who dislike any part of The Accolade. I think the hymn part in the middle can get a bit boring sometimes, but in the end I think it showcases the diversity they used to have wonderfully.

    It's one of Symphony X's defining moments, in my opinion. One of the most beautiful things they've ever recorded.
     
  3. Marwen

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    He did? Cool. I did think they'd do something different now.

    Totally agreed.
     
  4. UnholyCrusada

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    Yeah. Here's just a quick excerpt from it:

     
  5. Harris The Epic

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    That's exactly how I'd describe Iconoclast song.
     
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    I can't help but laugh at the "there's some shit in there" part. lmao :lol:
     
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    Alright, yeah. They should definitely draw some attention to their older, heavier songs. I wouldn't mind live bonus tracks, but if they are going to actually re-record something in studio, it needs to be "Absinthe and Rue".
     
  8. Harris The Epic

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    You can't fathom just how much the words "some shit" can encompass.
     
  9. Postulate

    Postulate Have a nice day! :)

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    Why would you do that?

    I literally have nothing bad to say about The Accolade. I am always finding new things to love about it.
     
  10. Prismatic Sphere

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    I didn't and do not think that there is any filler or bad songs on any SX albums pre-PL(not counting the debut). DG and Divine Wings each only had really one song that wasn't up to par with the rest of the records; "Secrets" and "The Witching Hour", respectively(the semi-cheesiness of "Out Of The Ashes" aside). Twilight was perfect, but not complete. And V is well...V. Odyssey's two sleeper songs "Incantations..." and "The Turning" as well as the above mentioned songs blow away 2/3 of anything on either PL or IC.

    I just can't see how anyone can say that the musical strength of the band is greater now on the two latest records. Hell, even MJR's Star Wars suite is way more interesting and creative than songs like "Serpent's Kiss" and "Bastards Of The Machine".

    And what happened to that idea of SX doing covers for a fan club CD? I'll gladly take their versions of Queen's "Princes Of The Universe" and Rainbow's "Gates Of Babylon" over the current drivel any day.
     
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    The Accolade is perfect. I love those last 3 minutes.

    +1
     
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    If there is anything bad about the Accolade, it's the horrid synth violin. Otherwise it's perfect. Especially the second half.
     
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    I hear you. It all used to sound fine to me until I got into really realistic sample libraries and all that stuff, that's when I started to notice how crappy/fake the violin in Accolade or Death of Balance etc. really is. But I still enjoy it, it's still listenable. They always did great with whatever means they had. I know bands that could hire and studio-record real orchestras but still suck compared to the old financially restricted Symphony X.
     
  14. Postulate

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    True. I don't count production values as far as merits go, though.
     
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    Iconoclast is my favourite Symphony X album by far. It sounds modern and kicks all kinds of ass! Great riffs, and being a bit of a thrasher, that central breakdown in Heratic has got to be one of the album highlights for me.
    I got into Symphony X through the Odyssey, which is a great album, but now I've heard most of their back catalogue it's my least favourite.
     
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    You're what's wrong with the world, go die.

    ... or words to that effect, is what to expect for saying you like Iconoclast and saying the word "modern" without negative connotations. Unfortunately folks round here don't take kindly to that kind of talk.

    Good to see appreciation for Iconoclast on this forum, although The Odyssey is possibly my favourite Symhphony X album (V through to Iconoclast are all very close in quality and have different things going for them).
     
  17. _Gentleman of_the Snow_

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    Iconoclast close to V in quality? UHWHA? Just...no. This goes beyond opinion now.
     
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    Agreed. I love Iconoclast, but V is just in a whole different league. Hell, I'd personally put it in a whole different league from every other album ever made.
     
  19. RuRoRul

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    I disagree.
     
  20. _Gentleman of_the Snow_

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    It would be much more difficult to craft an album like V over Iconoclast.
    Does that make it better? Potentially, no, but in this case, I feel it does.

    There are other albums of equal quality to V by other bands, IMO, though.
     

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