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What happened to prog metal?

Discussion in 'ProgPower USA' started by Cheiron, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Prog_Please

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    Too bad too. Barren Earth is amazing. There are a lot of decent progressive "death" metal bands out there. *cough cough* Division By Zero, Disillusion, Orphaned Land *cough cough*.
     
  2. Up&Away

    Up&Away A member nonetheless

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    ^ this. I linked 3 threads above that basically went by the wayside. The originator of this thread asked a question that normally gets answered almost daily with threads like these.

    Forums have cliques normally. So, a post about a new band from certain individuals will get responses. Particularly one or two due to the brown-nose effect.
     
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    Up&Away A member nonetheless

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    I would put those that l linked against almost any that have been to PP and I'll record the win. ;)
     
  4. Cheiron

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    I look in lots of places. Can you name a couple?
     
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    Liljegren Records / October 15 2010 .......includes a 20 minute epic ;)

    "Into Forever" is the title of the new one. Last one was called "The Weight Of The World"

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  6. Cheiron

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    I like the MindSplit album.

    Why the hell is a progressive band calling themselves Utopia? They might want to research their name-choice first, and perhaps learn something about a man named Todd Rundgren. Still, the clip was musically interesting enough to want to hear more.

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    Your posts are often very troll'ish, so sometimes I just ignore when you post.
     
  7. cslebn

    cslebn The Duck of Doom

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    I'd agree that's very on point. From Lion Music:

    Section A (2003)
    Lord of Mushrooms (2002)
    Shadrane (2008)
    Sun Caged (2003)
    Venturia (2006)

    Others:

    Day Six (they fucking rule) (2003)
    Anthropia (2006)
    Silent Call (2008)
    Acid Rain (2009)
    Subsignal (from members of Sieges Even) (2009)
    Winds (if you want something not DT like) (2002)
    Oceansize (2003)
    Dante (2007)

    Edit: added dates of debut full length albums just for frame of reference
     
  8. Bryant

    Bryant Mr. Sleepy

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    If you like Sieges Even, the former singer and guitar player formed a band called Subsignal.

    Also if you like complexity...... you might want to try the new Vanden Plas. I certainly would not consider the band very "proggy" in terms of odd time signatures or uncommon melody, and in fact is very much a "melodic" prog band. However, the addition of a choir, guest vocals, a small orchestra and a very detailed concept make it quite complexed in it's own right.

    If you want FW, look no further than Redemption. They even share a vocalist. The music you are looking for is out there..... you just have to find it.

    I am not a sub-genre specific fan. I am a metal music fan, be it prog, power, traditional, thrash etc. but if I look hard enough I can find bands to satisfy what I am looking for. Even though I am not sub-genre specific, it is still difficult for me to find the quality I am looking for, but it is out there. Just try the recommendations here and look for them on youtube or something.


    Bryant
     
  9. Up&Away

    Up&Away A member nonetheless

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    Your perception is wrong but it's your perception, so fair enough.

    So, why ignore the other threads by other people giving great recommendations like mine?
     
  10. BenMech

    BenMech student of the d'eh

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    Todd Rungren's band wasn't the only 1970s Utopia, nor his previous band, The Nazz, the other version mutating into Alice Cooper.


    Meanwhile, There's no International Band Copyright Register, so crap like this happens all the time. Case in point - Portal. One person thinks of the Australian cloak-wearing Clockheads. Another thinks of a Canadian Alt-rock band (Blood Red Tape being their most recent album). Still others think of the female-led band featuring members of Cynic. Then there's something about a videogame where you can learn about a lying cake.

    Ambiguity everywhere!!!
     
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    cslebn The Duck of Doom

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    Cake cannot lie!
     
  12. hoodaman

    hoodaman Is it live or is it Dave?

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    correct. However the presence of cake in the very near future can indeed be a lie.
     
  13. cslebn

    cslebn The Duck of Doom

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    This makes me want to leave work and go get some cake :erk:

    Back on topic:

    Lanfear is another excellent band
     
  14. J. Golden

    J. Golden Heaven and Hell Records

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    "playing complex-technical music" does not a progressive band make. And more bands like Fates Warning and such would not be progressive or progressing. Actually it would just be cut from the cloth really. I think those bands that sound like Fates Warning, Dream Theater, etc are not very thought out at all. The only thought that seemed to have gone into these bands is "who should we sound like?"
    What happened to progressive metal and even progressive rock is that it stopped progressing. It became formula, attracted an audience with the average consumer mindset (not saying that is go or bad) and suddenly the meaning was changed. Seems I recall the same thing happening in the 90s when the word "alternative" also took on a new meaning.
    I'm sure, actually know no one here will agree with me, but what the hey.
     
  15. hoodaman

    hoodaman Is it live or is it Dave?

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    you sir, would be wrong.
     
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    This sentiment has never, ever, ever been expressed on this board. You sir are a true freethinker.
     
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    This is something I've been wondering too, most places I used to go to for prog metal recs don't even like the stuff anymore.
     
  18. J. Golden

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    Oh I'm sure I am. Whoever would think that "progressive would mean to advance, forge ahead, be inventive, creative, can't have that. No in the perfect world of "progressive" everything should be sterile, only advance within the common frame work, stay formulated, and only change within the common perception of the collective. Um, I wonder how Orwell would have seen this idea of "progressive" in music.
    A lot of what I read in this forum about "progressive" music and thought leads me to think it is a very Orwellian way of thinking. Seems many in the forum view progressive music as fitting within a structure with no room for movement rather that be forward, backwards, or wherever. This thought is reconfirmed in how many in the forum not only seem to share the same way of thinking has if of the Borg, but if anyone suggest different that is either ignored, disagreed with heavily, or sometimes even censored (fascism).
    So today as I pondered this thread I finally came to realize how a lot of people in this forum (note; I did not say all) view progressive ideas and music.
     
  19. hoodaman

    hoodaman Is it live or is it Dave?

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    I hope you read my reply as saying you're wrong in thinking that no one agrees with you and not your way of thinking is wrong.
     
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    I don't know... As a musician, much of the prog that I listen to sounds so predictable. You just start to anticipate the chords, the melodies, the song structures even upon a first listen of a new band. When I get that feeling, I agree with you that prog is stale/dead. But, then I hear something like Haken, or Frost, and it is so amazingly fresh to my ears (even if its not enjoyable to some, it's out of this world in terms of originality).

    It's cyclical. There are innovators, then copycats, then a stagnation period, then ultimately a rebirth with just enough of a shred of originality to re-invent genres. Just like natural/physical evolution, we'll iterate and evolve our music at an almost imperceptible pace using the near-infinite amount of entropy-reducing goodness thats available! On a local scale (our cd players, and our limited time devoted to discovering music), we just don't see the forward progress!
     

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