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What makes Thrash metal...Well thrash?

Discussion in 'Old School Metal Discussion' started by Halberd3, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. Halberd3

    Halberd3 Member

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    Truthfully I've wondered sometimes. What sets thrash apart from more traditional heavy metal? Is it the riffs? The tempo? Guitar and bass tones? Chords and patterns? Palm muting usage? I've heard a good degree of palm muting get used in the more traditional stuff. Sometimes I honestly don't know. I mean I've heard stuff like Iron Curtain and Dexter Ward make stuff that sounded almost thrashy, mainly the tone but they get grouped into the traditional circle.

    So really what sets this apart from





    From this?



     
  2. CASSETTEISGOD

    CASSETTEISGOD Doom Over The World

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    Beer makes me thrash.
     
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  3. Halberd3

    Halberd3 Member

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    No seriously. Musically speaking.
     
  4. zegonzales

    zegonzales New Metal Member

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    Everything you mentioned . In My opinion , Thrash is heavier , more agressive , and darker in the riff department than traditional Heavy Metal .
     
  5. Halberd3

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    So what does that make Dexter Ward and Iron Curtain? Their riffs sound very similar to thrash riffs but they're categorized under traditional.
     
  6. elohimeth

    elohimeth marțolea

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    my guess is alcohol. also rebellion and carelessness. then there's the occasional satanism but that isn't very specific to the genre.
     
  7. Iron Wizard

    Iron Wizard Heathen

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    First, the obvious. Thrash metal is fast. It doesn't necessarily have to be 200bmp with palm muted 16th notes and blastbeats, but it has to be at least on the upper side of midtempo. This is shared with speed metal, though speed is less integral to thrash.

    The thrash metal rhythm section generally abides by an 8th or 16th note skeleton, with different variations to create a more "jerky" sound. Triplets are employed extensively as well, and gallop style rhythms are also used. Examples include "Battery" by Metallica or "Impact is Imminent" by Exodus.

    Thrash metal is less melodic than speed metal, as well. Guitar melodies are few and far between, instead, the riffs sound like choppy patterns of notes. Evil sounding intervals and chords are used, and the vocals are harsh. Again we have e to differentiate from speed metal. Speed metal is generally as fast and often faster than thrash, but it tends to have a very steady, laid back sound in comparison. Listen to "Alison Hell" by Annihilator. That is not thrash, it's speed metal. The same goes for "Overkill" by Motörhead and "Exciter" by Judas Priest. Then compare that to almost anything by Megadeth, who use complex riffs, sudden fills, rundowns, groove sections, and especially tempo changes.
     
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    There is as much of that in speed metal as there is thrash metal. Note that I say speed metal as I think it makes a good background to highlight thrash characteristics against.
     

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