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WTF is "Glue"

Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by NSGUITAR, Nov 8, 2010.

  1. NSGUITAR

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    It sounds like you know exactly what it is but you just disagree with the criticism.
    "Glue" is the sonic cohesion that makes the mix sound like a solid musical unit and not 100 discreet elements recorded in a vacuum being played back simultaneously.
     
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    SimonTaddio_Qc Headbanger

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    What is a good way of achiving this?
     
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    Jaekae Legendary Member

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    compression, frequency balancing , reverb, etc
     
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    SimonTaddio_Qc Headbanger

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    Mastering and good mix, maybe?
     
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    Wild Hades Clean channels are for pussies

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    Level adjustements for every instrument (you can check it by listening to your mix at very low volume, is a nice trick) and compression on the master buss.
    The ambience (reverb mainly and delay in some cases) is important too for drums, lead guitars and expecially vocals.
     
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    pipaguapique Remember Me

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    it's usually a compressor on the mix bus that glues all the instruments together.

    usually the SSL Comp for heavy/hard rock.

    i like the focusrite d2 for more pop'ish stuff. and im really liking the AC1 on mix bus now
     
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    I'm using ssl comp =(
     
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    You're not going there again, are you? :lol:
     
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    I'm just saying: That's what I'm using.
     
  12. jimwilbourne

    jimwilbourne I try.

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    glue is just a term used to describe how the elements of a mix fit together.

    there is not one element that creates glue. yes, it's mix & buss compression, yes it's reverbs. but it's more of how you use your elements together to create a nice atmosphere.
     
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    Good way of putting it!

    Any suggestions on this one?
     
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    there is actually a stereo buss compressor plug-in by cytomic called the glue. it is a really great compressor if you don't have the waves ssl buss comp (but we all know that you do.) xoxo. =P



    obviously... in order to acheive this sound, the source quality rule still applies.
     
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    Jind Grrrr!!! (I'm a bear)

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    I've always looked at "glue" as the results of the complete mix. How you go about achieving a "glued" mix vary, but when all the pieces come together - good song, good tracking, effective use of compression, EQ, and reverb (regardless of the tools used), and good mixing skills (we all know what that entails), you have a cohesive mix that takes all these individual physical items to produce something that sounds as a pleasing whole and not as a collection of individual tracks and/or effects that made it so.

    Just my 2 cents - your mileage may vary.
     
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    jimwilbourne I try.

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    I actually use "the glue"
    it's sick with a few more useful features than waves SSL.
    I actually like it better than waves SSL
     
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    jimwilbourne I try.

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    I have to say that there's nothing I can say that will help too much. it's all rather relative. I think we all have different and similar tastes of glue.

    in all things heavy rock, I like for my glue to show what I described as "atmosphere"
    I want my mix to be punchy, compressed and "chewy" (a weird term I use for perfect compression haha).
    but at the same time I like there to be a distinct sense of depth.
    I want it to sound like you're hearing it in a space or room, if you will.
    to me, that's taking a mix's glue just that much further
     
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    What Jim said. It's sort of like asking how to mix. We can create a list of things we do but it isn't going to be very helpful b/c it's so interactive and track dependent.
     
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    i totally agree whit what the other guys has just said, also is very important to have a good arranged song, sometimes is impossible to get that glue in a mix just because of that factor.
     
  20. AudioPhile777

    AudioPhile777 Mathew Cohen

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    this thread title made me think of this:

    "F*cking Magnets, How Do They Work?"

    not sure why, it just did.
     

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