well if you live in England and haven't seen those 2 bands i'd be surprised

they seem to be on permanant tour, Stampin' Ground were on tour non-stop for about a year, i got an email from them today, they're releasing a limited vinyl of the London gig they done recently at the Totalfest or something.
you'll love Decimate, its a pity that as good as their demo is, they're about 10 times better live, i think Stampin' Ground are better live too, but still great on cd.
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