Burzum- Hvis lyset tar oss

[Laeth MacLaurie]

Originally Posted by Cythraul

You've done an excellent job of completely missing the point.



Looks like you have a completely erroneous idea of what counts as analysis.

Translation: nuh-uh!

[Cythraul]

Originally Posted by Laeth MacLaurie

It boggles my mind that someone who makes a great show of his presumed intelligence can miss something as patently obvious as Burzum's use of themes of eternal recurrence and the past as the dream and hope of the present. My god, just take a quick look at the lyrics to "Det som engang var." This isn't rocket science.

yeah, ok. Even if that is the case, the point is that the statement is nonsensical. Nothing about the nature of Burzum lyrics changes the fact that you write bullshit. Also, if speculative metaphysics is supposed to count as a significant point of interest or sign of quality in a musical work then I'd rather not have anything to do with it.

[Cythraul]

Originally Posted by Laeth MacLaurie

Translation: nuh-uh!

Oh really? My comments were right on the mark and relevant. Do I need to go into depth about something that's quite fucking obvious?

[Laeth MacLaurie]

How is it nonsensical (beyond your inability to get it, I mean, which is a product of your own stupidity)? It's a straightforward statement using wholly conventional metaphors and usage.

[Thanatopsis123]

I liked the review. It was colorful and fun to read. Having heard the album, it easily helped me recall the music but I don't think this would have done much for me had I not already heard it.

[TylerTheNuke]

I thought it was a fine review. This review is not a traditional review, because this album has been reviewed to death in a traditional fashion. Instead of describing the sound, which is pretty much impossible anyways, so the traditional review sucks in that regard anyways. What the reviewer is doing is trying to capture the essence of the album, and the reviewer partially succeeds. At least more so then some reviewers. Now, the reviewers responses are a little too snobish though. I don't know why metal makes people mean...

[anonymousnick2001]

It's not metal, actually. It's never leaving your mum's house.

[Son of Odin]

Personally I think the review was bad. It gave no impression of the music or the art and conceptual basis behind the music. But why must people drag the subject out over 2 pages? If you don't like something, don't spend so much time cutting it down... Hail Varg

[byrne]

Originally Posted by TylerTheNuke

Instead of describing the sound, which is pretty much impossible anyways, so the traditional review sucks in that regard anyways.

Wrong. How is the sound of the album impossible to describe? No album's sound is impossible to describe to a well listened, metal fan. In fact, the albums sound is fucking easy to describe given how basic it is. And no, I'm not going to bother.

One of the issues with Laeth seems to be that he is so caught up in his arrogant search for "something so mind-bogglingly complex and different" he fails to appreciate music at the most basic level. So bad luck to him.

[The Timebird]

How is appreciating complexity and originality in music any less rewarding than appreciating catchy melodies or whatever it is you consider to be the "basic level"? Unless you mean an emotional level, in which case you're just being presumptuous.

[byrne]

I never said it was. However, that is exactly my point. People like Laeth who merely appreciate music at a complex, "artisitic-intent" level, seem to be unable to acknowledge the basic levels of appreciation for music. This is despite the fact that I may appreciate some albums at this more "complex" level as well.

Case and point, this album does nothing for me. He can rant and rave on all he wants, but if the music fails to make any impact on me, as Varg intended it to (and yes, the same melodies, lyrics etc. are interpreted by listeners, or impact listeners in a different way) it fails to have its desired effect.