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Old February 20th, 2008, 10:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Meshuggah - obZen

Hey everyone,

we recently reviewed the new Meshuggah album 'obZen' at Guitar Messenger.

Check it out at www.guitarmessenger.com (Go to 'Reviews')
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Old March 1st, 2008, 01:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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My current favorite album.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 12:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old March 4th, 2008, 04:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I may buy this if they win me over when I see them with Ministry...
I just haven't been much of a fan since the initially spilt from Nuclear Blast...
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Old March 15th, 2008, 11:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I just got it this morning and I am in love.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 01:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Okay, I researched pineal gland, and this is what I got:

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The secretory activity of the pineal gland has only relatively recently become understood. Historically, its location deep in the brain suggested to philosophers that it possessed particular importance. This combination led to its being a "mystery" gland with myth, superstition and metaphysical theories surrounding its perceived function.

René Descartes, who dedicated much time to the study of the pineal gland,[16] called it the "seat of the soul" [17]. He believed that it was the point of connection between the intellect and the body. [18]. This was in part because of his belief that it is unique in the anatomy of the human brain in being a structure not duplicated on the right and left sides. This observation is not true, however; under a microscope one finds the pineal gland is divided into two fine hemispheres. Another theory was that the pineal operated as a valve releasing fluids, thus the position taken during deep thought, with the head slightly down meeting the hand, was an allowance for the opening of these 'valves'.

The pineal gland is occasionally associated with the sixth chakra (also called Ajna or the third eye chakra in yoga) or sometimes the Seventh (Crown) chakra. It is believed by some to be a dormant organ that can be awakened to enable telepathic communication.[citation needed]

The pineal gland has relevance for Discordianism which is rooted in Californian psychedelic culture.

Writers such as Alice Bailey, considered an early proponent of the new age movement, use the pineal-eye as a key element in their spiritual world-view...(see Alice Bailey: "A Treatise on White Magic")
So, I hope this helps anyone trying to puzzle out the lyrics.

What has me stumped is pravus. I looked it up, and I found some secret island in a role-playing game. The word has to mean something, right?

I loved this stanza/verse:

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If given a thousand years to collect,
To process, to portray
- We could never encompass the voracity
Of one single day
Simple, but elegant...
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Old April 1st, 2008, 10:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I love Meshuggah. obZen is awesome but the chug chug chug riffs get old.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 01:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Will be probably in my top 5 at the end of 2008!! Excellent album.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 08:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I love Meshuggah. obZen is awesome but the chug chug chug riffs get old.
Amen.
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Old April 16th, 2008, 08:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Definately a step up from Nothing in my book.

Although they have yet to top DEI...
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Old May 13th, 2008, 07:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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not as good as..

i thought destroy erase improve was better(thought thats my favorite album by 'em) but all in all, its a solid album
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