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Discussion in 'Symphony X (Unofficial)' started by Dieblo, Jul 3, 2004.

  1. Dieblo

    Dieblo The L O N G E S T member

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    I bought Cacophony -speed metal symphony last week, And am really digging the guitar playing in this record, But I don't know where to go from here, which one have you listened to and wich one do you recomend of the following:

    Cacophony - GO off
    Friedman - Dragon's kiss
    Becker - Perpetual Burn

    Any other recomendations are also welcome
     
  2. WhoFooldU

    WhoFooldU Fool for a Lifetime

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    If I had to pick from that list, I'd be inclinded to pick Friedman's "Dragon's Kiss". The Jason Becker disc is a really close second. Go Off is third.

    Glenn
     
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    Yes, Go Off is third - and I dont think it's even that good - for me also. You really can't go wrong with Dragon's Kiss or Perpetual Burn.
     
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    Definitely agree about Go Off. The only true significance to the cd is the playing of Friedman and Becker. Material wasn't as good as the stuff on Speed Metal Symphony.

    Glenn
     
  5. the_satanic_rabbit

    the_satanic_rabbit Return of Ganon

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    You really need to get all three. I guess I'd say perpetual, dragon's kiss, then go off. Go off is not bad, there are some awesome riffs and solos, but over all it's a bit more cheesy. How bout that ballad, Floating World :lol:
     
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    I'd say go for Perpetual Burn. Technical guitar genius. I hear Jason's "Perspective" is really good, too.
     
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    Hyoukinmono Real Man

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    Perpetual Burn. Dragon's Kiss is pretty good, too, but it didn't grab hold of me like Perpetual Burn did. As for Perspective, my son has been addicted to it for the past couple of months.
     
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    Dieblo The L O N G E S T member

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    But is perpetual burn and dragon kiss speed metal, or is it any other genre??
     
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    the_satanic_rabbit Return of Ganon

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    They are both similar to what you hear on Speed Metal Symphony, but each artist shows their individuality a bit more. For example, Perpetual Burn is more neo classical while Dragon's Kiss is more Eastern or exotic.
     
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    Black Cat and Sword of the Warrior had pretty awful choruses.
     
  11. ABQShredHead

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    Perspective is fantastic, but you need to know that much of the guitar playing is not Jason Becker. He wrote everything, but whatever was recorded after the ALS set in was played by other players. Michael Firkins is awesome on "Meet Me In The Morning". "Primal" is my favorite Becker track overall though.
     
  12. SevenString

    SevenString RJ-D0, Metal 'Droid

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    funny this came up... just this past weekend, i found some of my old VINYL records in storage, and i seem to have SIGNED copies of "Go Off", "Speed Metal Symphony", both with the entire band, and a copy of "Perpetual Burn", signed by Becker.

    I also a signed copy of Freidman's first record, a band called "Hawaii", as well as a bunch of signed Racer-X vinyl.

    I had forgotten all about this stuff!!!
     
  13. Taliwakker

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    I've got so much vinyl and nothing to play it on....most of it is 80's glam shit but there is a lot of Shrapnel stuff and Zappa records.
     
  14. SevenString

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    yeah... shrapnel!!!

    i've got all those McAlpine, Moore, Tafolla, Howe, whatever. I even have "Steeler" on vinyl. At the time, I was pretty much buying anything that said "Shrapnel".

    How about you, TW?
     
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    Yep...Howe, Friedman,Becker,Moore,Tafolla,Ross, Racer X etc some of them i had to get on cassette....couldn't get Steeler but sadly i have some bad Keel records :)
    Apart from the Friedman,Becker and Howe stuff i haven't bothered getting the other stuff on cd...it might turn up in a sales bin or a second hand shop....not likely in a small town like Canberra though....

    You are lucky that you got to see all of those guys back in the day....Vinnie Moore did a guitar clinic down here in 88 or 89 and thats the only contact we got with any of the shred scene in Australia.
     
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    ABQShredHead ©1970

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    Shrapnel ruled! I used to look at their ads in the mags to see how many tapes I had of theirs and then make a list of what I didn't have. Varney was a genius.

    I saw the Vinnie Moore clinic as well. I actually recorded it on one of those old mini-tape recorders that were supposed to be for recording meetings and other voice-related things. It sounded like crap. I guess I need to look for those tapes...

    I saw Howe II two nights in a row back in '90 and that was awesome!

    How 'bout Vicious Rumors? Remember those guys? They were awesome!

    Ah, the good ol' days...
     
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    Yeah its too bad Varney is a dirtbag businessman...

    Anyway, Perpetual Burn is like, required listening for anyone into shred guitar, so I say get that next.
     
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    Did you have any dealings with him?
     
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    Yngvai X Dark Emperor

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    No, but I've heard plenty of horror stories to never want to have any dealings with him.
     
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    Not that I wanna sneak up behind you, knock you out, and rob you - nothing like that - but where do you live? :D Seriously, wow. Speed Metal Symphony changed guitar, I'm very envious dude. And Perpetual Burn is one of my favorite CDs. Racer-X kicks ass, too.
     

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