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AE's Nebula thread (samples, tests, etc)

Discussion in 'Backline' started by AeternusEternus, Jan 12, 2009.

  1. AeternusEternus

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    Instead of continually hijacking Marcus's threads like an ass, I'm gonna have my own here. I will continually update this first post here.

    IF YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR OWN CAB PROGRAMS, use the templates from this post here -> http://www.acusticaudio.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=16053#16053

    They take the least amount of time and still sound fantastic. I advise the dynamic clean and dynamic 3-kernel.

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    Nebula Programs
    [​IMG] PROTIP: If a cab (or any Nebula program) is too loud or soft for your tastes, you can change its pad volume. Select the program, and then go to Prog -> Edit -> Glob, and change the Pad Out setting to whatever you would like.

    Assorted Marshall 1960A Programs

    -Marshall 1960A, Sennheiser E906

    Cabinet: Marshall 1960A
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion G12T75
    Speaker Location: Bottom right

    Power Amp: Marshall 9100, Side A
    Tubes: Groove Tubes GTE34LS

    Microphone: Sennheiser E906
    Mic Setting: Flat EQ
    Mic Position: Off-axis, rotated 45 degrees at the center
    Mic Distance: Between 1 and 2 inches

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -Clean Reverb session, 2-sec
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -Two repeats
    -60-second sweeps
    -Mono


    Download Link

    -Marshall 1960A, Sennheiser MD421

    Cabinet: Marshall 1960A
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion G12T75
    Speaker Location: Bottom right

    Power Amp: Marshall 9100, Side A
    Tubes: Groove Tubes GTE34LS

    Microphone: Sennheiser MD421
    Mic Setting: Flat EQ
    Mic Position: Off-axis, rotated 45 degrees at the center
    Mic Distance: Between 1 and 2 inches

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -Clean Reverb session, 2-sec
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -One repeat
    -45-second sweeps
    -Stereo file, but it should've been mono! If you use this on a mono track in your DAW, and then pan that mono track, there should be NO PROBLEM. But if you run it on a stereo guitar track, you'll only get the effect on the left side.


    Download Link
    You can also download the impulse I made with this exact setup for your own comparison right here.

    -Marshall 1960A, Sennheiser MD421 #2

    Cabinet: Marshall 1960A
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion G12T75
    Speaker Location: Bottom right

    Power Amp: Marshall 9100, Side A
    Tubes: Groove Tubes GTE34LS

    Microphone: Sennheiser MD421
    Mic Setting: Flat EQ
    Mic Position: Off-axis, rotated 45 degrees at the center
    Mic Distance: Between 1 and 2 inches

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -Distorted Preamp session, 10 kernels
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -I do not remember any of the repeats/lengths/number of sweeps! :(


    Download Link

    -Marshall 1960A, Sennheiser MD421 #3

    Cabinet: Marshall 1960A
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion G12T75
    Speaker Location: Bottom right

    Power Amp: Marshall 9100, Side A
    Tubes: Groove Tubes GTE34LS

    Microphone: Sennheiser MD421
    Mic Setting: Flat EQ
    Mic Position: Off-axis, rotated 45 degrees at the center
    Mic Distance: Between 1 and 2 inches

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -Distorted Reverb session
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -Mono
    -One repeat
    -I don't remember the length or number of sweeps. But this was done in conjunction with MD421 #4 to test quality differences.


    Download Link

    -Marshall 1960A, Sennheiser MD421 #4

    Cabinet: Marshall 1960A
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion G12T75
    Speaker Location: Bottom right

    Power Amp: Marshall 9100, Side A
    Tubes: Groove Tubes GTE34LS

    Microphone: Sennheiser MD421
    Mic Setting: Flat EQ
    Mic Position: Off-axis, rotated 45 degrees at the center
    Mic Distance: Between 1 and 2 inches

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -Distorted Reverb session file
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -Two repeats
    -60-second sweeps
    -25 sweeps
    -Mono


    Download Link

    -Marshall 1960A, M-Audio SPUTNIK

    Cabinet: Marshall 1960A
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion G12T75
    Speaker Location: Bottom right

    Power Amp: Marshall 9100, Side A
    Tubes: Groove Tubes GTE34LS

    Microphone: M-Audio SPUTNIK tube condenser
    Mic Setting: Flat EQ
    Mic Position: Somewhere between off-axis and on-axis
    Mic Distance: 2 inches

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -New Clean Cabinet session
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -One repeat
    -30-second sweeps (all default settings to the Clean Cabinet session)
    -Mono!


    Download Link
    You can also download the impulse I made with this exact setup for your own comparison right here.

    -Marshall 1960A, M-Audio SPUTNIK, Off-Axis and 5in back

    Cabinet: Marshall 1960A
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion G12T75
    Speaker Location: Bottom right

    Power Amp: Marshall 9100, Side A
    Tubes: Groove Tubes GTE34LS

    Microphone: M-Audio SPUTNIK tube condenser
    Mic Setting: Flat EQ
    Mic Position: Off-Axis
    Mic Distance: 5 inches

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -New Clean Cabinet session
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -One repeat
    -30-second sweeps (all default settings to the Clean Cabinet session)
    -Mono


    Download Link

    -Marshall 1960A, M-Audio SPUTNIK w/ 6L6 power tubes

    Cabinet: Marshall 1960A
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion G12T75
    Speaker Location: Bottom right

    Power Amp: Marshall 9100, Side B
    Tubes: Groove Tubes 6L6

    Microphone: M-Audio SPUTNIK tube condenser
    Mic Setting: Flat EQ
    Mic Position: Off-Axis
    Mic Distance: 3 inches

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -New Clean Cabinet session
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -One repeat
    -30-second sweeps (all default settings to the Clean Cabinet session)
    -Mono


    Download Link

    Assorted Marshall 1960B Programs

    -Marshall 1960B, M-Audio SPUTNIK w/ 6L6 power tubes

    Cabinet: Marshall 1960B
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion G12T75
    Speaker Location: Top right

    Power Amp: Marshall 9100, Side B
    Tubes: Groove Tubes 6L6

    Microphone: M-Audio SPUTNIK tube condenser
    Mic Setting: Flat EQ
    Mic Position: Off-Axis, angled 45 degrees at the center
    Mic Distance: 1 inch

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -New Clean Cabinet session
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -One repeat
    -30-second sweeps (all default settings to the Clean Cabinet session)
    -Mono


    Download Link

    -Marshall 1960B, Sennheiser E906 w/ 6L6 power tubes

    Cabinet: Marshall 1960B
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion G12T75
    Speaker Location: Bottom right

    Power Amp: Marshall 9100, Side B
    Tubes: Groove Tubes 6L6

    Microphone: Sennheiser E906
    Mic Setting: Flat EQ
    Mic Position: Off-Axis, angled 45 degrees at the center
    Mic Distance: 1 inch

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -New Clean Cabinet session
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -One repeat
    -30-second sweeps (all default settings to the Clean Cabinet session)
    -Mono


    Download Link

    Mesa 412FB programs and matching impulses (new!)

    -Mesa 412FB, Sennheiser E906 4-pack

    Cabinet: Mesa 412FB
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion V30
    Speaker Location: Bottom right

    Power Amps: Marshall 9100 Side A & Marshall 9100 Side B
    Tubes: Groove Tubes E34LS & Groove Tubes 6L6

    Microphone: Sennheiser E906
    Mic Setting: Flat EQ
    Mic Position: Between on-axis and off-axis & Off-axis angled at center 45 degrees
    Mic Distance: 1 inch

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -New Clean Cabinet session
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -One repeat
    -30-second sweeps (all default settings to the Clean Cabinet session)
    -Mono


    Download Link

    -Mesa 412FB, Audix I5 4-pack :kickass: :kickass:

    Cabinet: Mesa 412FB
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion V30
    Speaker Location: Bottom right

    Power Amps: Marshall 9100 Side A & Marshall 9100 Side B
    Tubes: Groove Tubes E34LS & Groove Tubes 6L6

    Microphone: Audix I5
    Mic Position: Between on-axis and off-axis & Off-axis angled at center 45 degrees
    Mic Distance: 1 inch

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -New Clean Cabinet session
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -One repeat
    -30-second sweeps (all default settings to the Clean Cabinet session)
    -Mono


    Download Link

    -Mesa 412FB, M-Audio Sputnik 4-pack

    Cabinet: Mesa 412FB
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion V30
    Speaker Location: Bottom right

    Power Amps: Marshall 9100 Side A & Marshall 9100 Side B
    Tubes: Groove Tubes E34LS & Groove Tubes 6L6

    Microphone: M-Audio Sputnik
    Mic Setting: Flat EQ
    Mic Position: Between on-axis and off-axis & Off-axis angled at center 45 degrees
    Mic Distance: 1 inch

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -New Clean Cabinet session
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -One repeat
    -30-second sweeps (all default settings to the Clean Cabinet session)
    -Mono


    Download Link

    -Mesa 412FB, Matching Impulses for ALL 12 NEBULA PROGRAMS!

    These are the matching impulse files for the three Nebula Mesa 412FB 4-packs. They were created with a 15-second pink noise test tone, each seconds after the corresponding Nebula programs had finished.

    Download Link

    Marshall 1960AV Programs

    -Marshall 1960AV/Shure SM57 Session Test Pack

    Cabinet: Marshall 1960AV
    Speakers: 4 x Celestion V30
    Speaker Location: Bottom right

    Power Amp: Marshall 9100, Side A
    Tubes: Groove Tubes E34LS

    Microphone: Shure SM57
    Mic Position: Between on-axis and off-axis
    Mic Distance: 2 inches

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    Five session files:

    -Original Cab Clean (10 min) - Labeled as ORG (original)
    -Cab Dynamic Clean (8 min) - Labeled as CDC (cab dynamic clean)
    -Cab Not Dynamic Clean (1 min) - Labeled CNC (cab notdynamic clean)
    -Cab Dynamic 3-kernel (8 min) - Labeled as CD3 (cab dynamic 3kernel)
    -Cab Not Dynamic 3-kernel (1 min) - Labeled as CN3 (cab notdynamic 3kernel)

    Three takes of each:

    -1 = 50% presence on power amp
    -2 = 25% presence on power amp
    -3 = 0% presence on power amp

    Example:

    1960AV 57 CDC2 = Cab Dynamic Clean session file, 25% presence


    -1960AV SM57 linear impulses (broke)
    -1960AV SM57 Nebula, Cab Clean Not Dynamic
    -1960AV SM57 Nebula, Cab 3-Kernel Not Dynamic
    -1960AV SM57 Nebula, Cab Clean Dynamic
    -1960AV SM57 Nebula, Cab 3-Kernel Dynamic
    -1960AV SM57 Nebula, Original Cab Session

    Other (Equalizers, Reverbs, etc)

    -BBE 882i Sonic Maximizer

    Unit: BBE 882i Sonic Maximizer rack unit

    Digital to Analog: Presonus Firestudio
    Analog to Digital: Presonus Firestudio

    -Equaliser 2 Knob (1 Kernel) Switch 1 Var session
    -44.1 KHz
    -64-bit
    -NAT 3 1.3.193
    -One repeat
    -30-second sweep
    -Stereo


    Download Link

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    Tests

    These were some A/B/C comparisons with the MD421. I made a Nebula program and an impulse at the same location, then reamplified (using the same power amp as used in the tests) a JMP1 signal to the mic. They're not the best in terms of playing so shut up and give me guitar lessons (for free)

    -Test 1 (blind, check this if you want to guess which is which)
    -Test 1 (files named appropriately)
    -Test 2 (blind, check this if you want to guess which is which)
    -Test 2 (files named appropriately)

    This was for the 1960A/SPUTNIK. This is the best shootout I have, I think.

    -Test 3 (blind, check this if you want to guess which is which)
    -Test 3 (files named appropriately)

    The answers for the above blind tests

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    Also, something to note. This is how many tracks of Nebula 3 that I can run with the MD421 sample loaded before my Core 2 Duo E6600 can't handle it. I've also got 2 GB of RAM and a Firestudio, if that matters.

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    What I'm currently working on:

    -Probably more cabinets, but possibly a reverb of some kind.

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    This thread is always updating!
     
  2. AeternusEternus

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    Placeholder, just in case. I'm making a Sputnik program in a few minutes.
     
  3. Metaltastic

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    Awesome man, thanks for all the details! You seriously did 2 repeats and 60 second sweeps, though? :OMG: That must've been like an hour of sine sweeping! Tell me you at least had the cab out of hearing range...
     
  4. AeternusEternus

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    Honestly bro, I had it loud as shit and I'm in an apartment building. The secret? Earplugs. I plugged the damn out of my ears and just read a book after I was sure of no clipping.

    Also, the neighbors are consistently loud so fuck em.

    That's what blows me away about this new session file. It only requires 10 minutes of sampling.
     
  5. Soundlurker

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    Awesome, thanks for the shoot out, too. I guessed the order for the first one. For the second one I downloaded the rar with names and even if the nebula one sounds slightly different it doesn't sound worse and it certainly has the dynamics that impulses lack.

    I guess this means you can go to a good studio and steal their amp, cab and room so to say :heh:
     
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    Jesus yes, gt75 samples.
     
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    The tone is awesome too, has that nasty not-so tight marshall thing.
     
  8. AeternusEternus

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    Okay. SPUTNIK program is up, and the tests are up, as well. This is very interesting.

    The SPUTNIK program turned out to be about 3MB, where the other two programs turned out to be about 80MB. However, the volume dropped CONSIDERABLY. All you have to do is turn the volume up some other way, but it's crazy how quiet it is. I was just under clipping during the sampling phase. Any idea why the volume drop happened?
     
  9. spioraid

    spioraid Fancy a pint? Or two?

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    Budget cut? Weed? Meds wore off? Cold water maybe?
     
  10. AeternusEternus

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    eunuch
     
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    If the gain is too high or too low you can adjust it inside nebula simply do the following steps:

    1. Load the preset
    2. Go to Prog page -> Edit -> Glob -> increase the Pad out parameter

    Then press exit and save.
     
  12. AeternusEternus

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    Oh my god.

    I love this program so much.

    Francesco, can you sign on MSN so we can chat for a bit?
     
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    Keregioz Kimon Zeliotis

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    I honestly can't hear any difference besides the volume being a little lower on the impulse track. Am I the only one?
     
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    Marshall 1960A, M-Audio SPUTNIK sounds awesome!!!
     
  16. AeternusEternus

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    I also have trouble with it. It feels better when you actually play in front of it, though. It's hard to describe.
    Well get ready to redownload it because I fixed the volume.
     
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    noarin Producer / Engineer

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    could you post a sample? :D
     
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    The cab and nebula are pretty similar, whereas the impulse is not as good and definitely misses the punchy palm mutes.
     
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    Wow, these are awesome! thanks for the upload and details.

    BTW AeternusEternus - TabIt??
     
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    The one and the same. How do you know me? Originals or forums?
     

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