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Discussion in 'LORD' started by flip`, Jan 4, 2005.

  1. flip`

    flip` Your mother was a hamster

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    I've been pondering doing album cover artwork for a while but I'm really not sure if I'm good enough..

    Something I've been working on for a bit (using photoshop):-
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    How dodgy does it look to you? lol (some of it is photosourced, namely the lightning)

    Any advice/comments/criticism would be welcome

    thanks
     
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    Shadow298 UNLEASH THE GUAN

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    The background (sky and lightning) look awesome but the gravestones/crosses and the skeleton hand look a little cheesy.
    I's think they need to be shade-blended a little more (as in having the gravestones match up with the sky a little more and knowing where the light sources all are so it falls naturally).
    But asides from that, I's think bands would want a cover/inlay art work like that. Especially Symphonic/Melodic black metal bands.
    Good stuff, flip`. Keep it up, mate!
    Peace
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    The lightning and sky look great... but as pimp said, overall it's cheesy, especially the hand. And the graveyard is a bit cheesy too.. it woudl work for an inlay, especially with text over the top. I'd blend the hand into the ground a little more ,if you are going to keep it...The texture on it looks as though it's overexposed or something!?

    Post more when you go on!
     
  4. Lord Tim

    Lord Tim That guy from LORD

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    The other thing you have to remember too is that what you're doing has to stand out next to other CDs on the racks. Cool art is cool art but to a certain degree, this is advertising and product placement...
     
  5. flip`

    flip` Your mother was a hamster

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    Cool thanks for the replies... Yeh it definitely is cheesy, but I suppose a lot of band artwork is these days... at least, to an extent! Overall lighting could use more work though, and blend a bit better yeh!

    I suppose if one wanted to get some sort of recognition the best idea would be an online portfolio?

    What would people like to see as a artwork?
     
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    Depends on what sort of recognition you want, I guess.

    What I'd like to see in artwork: Anything that looks good, that isn't cheesy. I hate cheese. If it looks professional, that's great too. If it ties in with a theme of the album, and looks good, that's even better. And the list could go on.... :D
     
  7. flip`

    flip` Your mother was a hamster

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    Is this any better, with the lighting changes?

    [​IMG]

    How does one avoid cheesyness though, wouldn't it differ between people?
     
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    flip` Your mother was a hamster

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    Lord Tim That guy from LORD

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    This would be great for a back cover or inlay or something, but for a cover, I think it needs more definition....

    Depending on the genre of the band, of course!
     
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    cheesiness is as subjective as the comment "tim is tall". okay, well it's very subjective, unlike tim's height. . I'm picky about cheesy stuff, everything's cheesy to me. The stuff you've shown here isn't *that* cheesy to my eyes, more cliched with the whole graves and hand coming out.. But still, the sky is awesome :)
     
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    Zen Vows In Ashes...

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    I think it looks awesome... But yeah, not as a cover. Did you hand-draw the arm, or what?

    While we're on the subject, feedback/opinions on some of album art crap I had to do for a TAFE assessment early last year? I've been too lazy to do anything much since, same goes for my webspace. Still, if anyone wants any web site crap/digital art crap done, I'm always wanting something to pass the time and gimme more experience.

    http://angeltowns2.com/members/stilly/Assign5/images.htm - Album art stuff.
    http://angeltowns2.com/members/stilly/Assign5/ - Dodgy portfolio site.
    http://zen-ith.com/usurious - Usurious (RickIth's band)'s site.
     
  12. flip`

    flip` Your mother was a hamster

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    For the hand I used an image as a guide http://www.cc.gatech.edu/projects/large_models/images/hand/hand.lg.jpg and added the arm bones in. I just went over it using dodge and burning techniques utilising various brushes over the plain coloured bone shape (one you have mastered that, you can do so so much!). The blood was done on a seperate layer.

    Did you do Digital Media at TAFE??? That's what I did last year and I'm doing the Diploma this year.
     
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    Zen Vows In Ashes...

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    Yeah, I did the Cert IV course last year, and I'm doing the Diploma this year. Fucking awesome course, and my teacher kicks arse. Bit of a metalhead... Big Satch, Vai, and Dream Theater fan. His band played with Alchemist and Damaged years ago, apparantly. Good stuff.

    What'd you think of the Cert 4 course? I got lazy/bored towards the end and totally slacked off, so it wouldn't surprise me if I just barely passed, or failed a few things. Either way, there's fuck all people doing the Diploma this year, so I should be able to get in regardless.
     
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    flip` Your mother was a hamster

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    Yep.. Cert IV was good! I enjoyed it a lot, my teachers were pretty cool too! Though, yeh I did get lazy by the end of the year.. that was at Hornsby Tafe. I'm probably going to Crows Nest one this year for the Diploma course... Which tafe did/are you attending?
     
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    Fucking Cricket. How often does one bust their hand up from Cricket. Not very often, thats how often.
     
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    Shouldn't be so hard on yourself, it was pretty well done. You want to do album artwork? As i mentioned in earlier threads, we are still looking for some artwork to be done for our EP. I cant tell you exactly the idea of it or the theme, but i will be able too soon.
     
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    The 2nd version is a lot better in terms of blending and lighting. As Tim said: be great for the back of a CD.
    The hand still needs work though.
    It needs more definition of being seperate from the dirt. To either have burst out of it or having been slowly unearth by the wind or some such.
    You need to make how it got there clear. It needs to be the focus of the piece rather then a foreground detail. It should have the emphersis on the hand and the sky to give the impression of distance.
    But these are merely the raving of one who wishes to be an artist.
    It is still a good work, flip, and should get you some work down the line.
    All the best with it and the others.
    Peace
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    flip` Your mother was a hamster

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    Thanks for the further tips Pimp! Yeh, I was trying to make it more so look like it was coming out of the ground but I really didn't nail that aspect which probably makes the image a little less striking as far as visuals go, It's a good idea for future note to really put some action (emphasis on movement of sorts) to capture ones attention more so. Though it is encouraging that you think I have a remote chance of doing some work further down the line, so I'll stick to it and see what I can come up with!

    Cheers all!
     
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    Zen Vows In Ashes...

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    I went/Am attending Wagga TAFE... Not like I have much choice, haha. Though, a mate's decided to go to some Digital Media college in Sydney, which sounds pretty cool. Can't remember exactly what it was called though, but it's $10,000 over 3 years for the shit he wants to do, then he said he plans to go to Enmore TAFE and do some specialist shit. Good luck to him, I say. This'll probably be my last year of education, unless I decide to go to Uni in a few years, or find a decent TAFE audio course somewhere.
     
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    I do cover art for bands every now and then, and the one thing that I think it's important to do with cover art is to not make things look too "photoshop". Photoshop is a fantastic tool, but a lot of stuff that gets done with it looks very very "photoshop".

    To avoid photoshopness you should try and limit the use of tools that do things for you that you could do with other things. Using Dodge and Burn to do shading is one of those things. While it's quick and easy once you get the hang of it, its generally considered a no no in art circles. It can be used for some small things, but for overall shading you should look more at using different brushes and brush blending modes...and playing with opposing colours. Most times if photoshop can do something automatically for you, you should do it another way.

    And never, ever, ever use lense flares :)

    One of the greatest things that PS can do is compositing and making great photo montages and stuff. I love playing around with dark art and doing stuff like that. I'll try and find a couple of pictures to upload.
     

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