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Alexi passed away

Discussion in 'Children Of Bodom' started by Sinthoras_96, Jan 4, 2021.

  1. dthmtl3

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    Of course he knew. And if my theory is correct, so did the COB guys. To what extent he was in denial and for how long who knows. The lyrics of course show his acknowledgment but it could still have competed with his tough guy/ rock 'n roll persona.

    Anyways, glad they are sharing this with the world. Hopefully someone will translate that text from the Finnish.
     
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  2. Fastbodom

    Fastbodom I Spit on Your Grave

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    Do you think Alexi sold his rights in COB so if he died Kimberly could’nt do anything with this ?
     
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    Translation for those who wanted it:

    Our loved one
    Markku Uula Aleksi Laiho

    Your memory's been sown in our in our hearts and is present at all times, respected, loved.

    We miss you:
    Kelli and Shelby
    mom and dad
    Anna and her family
    friends and family

    Blessed in the presence of loved ones.
    A warm thank you for your participation.

    EDIT: I can also confirm the Allu thing. Allu is a very common nickname for people called Aleksi in Finland. I had a friend called Aleksi as a kid and he too was called Allu, for example.
     
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  4. VenusAversa

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    It may be possible, because selling his part of CoB might be about securing his lifework behind Jaska, Janne and Henkka. I believe he trusted his mates most what comes to CoB. I think he wouldn't have wanted anyone else getting their hands on his lifework, royalties and stuff. I'm not sure about legal stuff, so is Jaska, Janne and Henkka rightful owners of songs Alexi wrote for CoB now?
     
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    NewHewkas Scheiße Gitarre Spieler

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    The exact same thing I am thinking of since they announced his death.
     
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    When news came out about CoB quitting, I was very confused because they had just released an album and bit later it was informed Alexi sold his part to Janne, Jaska and Henkka so it got bells ringing in my head this is not a result of guys arguing on tour or about band members having children. Now it seems clear why they did all that and I think Alexi made right thing. I believe CoB quitting was extreme wake up call for Alexi to take care of himself and it all was about love and worry for their friend and brother.
     
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    It depends on the contract but they do own the name Children of Bodom which is why Alexi had to continue COB under the new name Bodom after Midnight. He sold his share of the brand so that could just be merchandise and the name. BAM would have been able to play COB songs as long as the venue had a cover licence. It's not uncommon for past members to sign over the rights and future royalties once they leave a band but this was an opposite situation where they got the rights and then called quits.
     
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    I thought he only sold the rights of the name/brand "Children Of Bodom" to them...not his whole music catalogue. Or do I remember this wrong?

    But it would make sense...in retrospect, the whole end of COB looks way different than until recently. I remember wondering already in 2017 or 2018 why the album takes so long to get released. They had it already done for quite some time, but it got pushed back a lot. Back then they said it has something to do with the label and they don't understand it themselves. But now, who knows...it probably was all a part of knowing the end isn't far away. :(

    Everyhing looks different now in retrospect...I remember being shocked in 2019 about how thin Alexi has become and I didn't get why they still play all those concerts...the footage on Youtube really frightened me and I just wished he would stop the concerts and get some help. Now I can imagine that maybe the touring didn't make any difference for his illness and as much as he loved playing live, he convinced the others to continue for a bit longer.

    Everyone of them MUST have known how serious it was...damn, this suddenly reminds me to the final years of Queen...they didn't tour anymore, but they did continue recording and there were already rumors for years about Freddie's health and illness, but the other three band members never said a word about it and denied all the rumors until the very end. This here seems quite similar now...they kept on going with him as long as they thought it was possible, they had those final shows and he made sure that they decide everything COB-related in the future by selling his rights. The autobiography is another thing that "surprisingly" was finished just in time.

    I always thought something didn't feel right about them getting so far apart over the years...I always thought back to the documentary on the live DVD where they talked about being brothers etc. and how close they were since early years. Of course people change over time and it can happen, but I think now it's pretty clear in this case it was an ongoing process knowing the end is near for 2-3 years at least probably. The others knew and had to handle that situation as well, while also respecting Alexi's wish for it to remain private and not telling anyone. Damn, no surprise most of them disappeared from the stage almost immediately after the final concert...it must have hit all of them really hard, especially in 2019. :( Fuck, this is all just so sad.
     
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    Ah, I believe you are right and I got mistaken! I was thinking about BAM and how come they can still play CoB songs if Alexi sold everything to CoB mates.

    I was very worried too when I saw how Alexi had lost weight, knowing he always was very thin but that point he really looked ill. I remember Alexi and Jaska FB live on Alexi's birthday, they were atm touring in US (I think?) and Alexi looked very tired and sad. People were asking about Alexi of he was okay, give him a sandwich, is he sick and stuff and they tried dodging those questions. I felt so damn sad, because Alexi seemed very serious, tired, sad and unwell. I was wondering how he had energy touring at that state, even it was something he loved but tour life is rough even for healthy person.

    Then he started look better and I was hopeful he was getting better so perhaps it isn't something that serious. This is the reason I was so shocked when I heard about his passing. I honestly thought he would continue with BAM, make some new music and stuff and I thought how he would be in his 50's and 60's, is he still on the road? But no. I believed he would be similar god-like-creature like Lemmy. Well, I think he has earned legend status when he was still with us.
     
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    I guess playing live was probably what gave him the most still in that state. He wanted to do what he loves as long as he could. Must have been very strong willpower to play while being that weak and sick.

    Definitely! And yes, people like Lemmy or Ozzy really ARE the very rare exception.
     
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    This is something I admire in Alexi, because he was so dedicated to music, touring and he was always so humble and kind to fans so I salute him for that. I always thought Alexi would do music and shows until the end and he actually did. He was very special person who didn't fall for gold and glory, but always remained genuine and humble.

    And yes, Ozzy was the one I was about to mention too and it is unbelievable he is still alive after doing lots of kind of shit during his career! It is almost supernatural!
     
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    Markku Uula comes from his both grandfathers. Just his parents wanted to pay respect to them. Alexi is his name, I mean, for him. I wasn't sure if he canceled the first ones, but nobody ever called him Markku or Uula.

    Yeah, I saw the post from Kelli and the weeks I was "recovering" from the freaking news just went to hell. I was at work, I literally start crying. The coffin of my ultimate idol, man, it's too much.
     
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    On January 4th i was in a very serious teachers meeting discussing some pupils with other teachers, and when I'd done my part i scrolled SoMe in casual fashion, when i got the news. I almost completely lost my shit in front of people. I managed to get home before losing control of my tearducts. I don't have anyone to share my grief with, because the people around me doesn't get it. So it's nice to read your stories and experiences.
     
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    I saw those questions on the QnA too, and thought what the fuck. Did noone ever teach them manners?
    What a terrible way to celebrate a birthday.
     
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    I'm so sorry for you. That must have been horrible if you don't have anyone to share your grief but I'm glad you are on this forum so here are lots of people who can share your grief and talk about it. My friends neither understand how big deal Alexi's passing is for me. I heard the news right after waking up from a nap and I saw shitloads of messages on my phone from my friends and I honestly thought my mind is playing tricks on me or I'm having a nightmare. Nightmare indeed it was, but sadly I was awake.

    I still can't believe how rude some fans can be with their comments, like jesting and even mocking when someone isn't clearly well. It really broke my heart seeing Alexi's and Jaska's faces when they read comments they were getting and subtly trying to change a subject and talk about stuff what they are planning to do on Alexi's birthday and how tour has been going so far.
     
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    Yeah, it's been far better than it could have been, if i hadn't had come back on here to talk to you guys.

    It was indeed vey saddening to watch him receive these comments and questions. People in general and sadly also alot of CoB fans can be so toxic and entitled.
     
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    I received the German Metal Hammer today. Not gonna lie, I'm a little disappointed by the text that describes Alexis life.

    The author clearly wanted to draw the picture of an alcohol addict. He even claims that Blooddrunk and RRF were bad albums because Alexi was too much into alcohol and Halo of Blood was very good because he stopped drinking (Personally I think both are better than Halo).

    It's also funny how he quotes Alexi from that Album ranking interview as a proof that even Alexi thought RRF was bad but completely ignored the fact that Alexi also said in the same interview that Halo was bad when he praises it as the late career Masterwork.

    And some more stuff is written that I don't really like. For example the article claims that the reason for CoB breakup was that the other guys got tired of Alexis ego. Nobody knows that for sure. It's only a speculation, yet it's written like a fact.

    And of course I completely disagree with that album ranking they did after the article in which they also wrote Bloodbound instead of Blooddrunk at some point lol

    EDIT: I didn't read the English version yet since I ordered it physically and therefore didn't buy the PDF. But I hope it's better than the German version.
     
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    Well, it must have been in very bad shape at the time of Bloddrunk - as far as alcohol is concerned. It's true.
    AYDY? and Bloddrunk were divisive. I think Bloddrunk got worse than AYDY, but I like it. Many people, on the other hand, did not like it.
    RRF... most people didn’t like it I think. So yeah, it wasn't too good and HoB was better for me, but... I don't know, I don't think it was because of alcohol. IWC was not too good like RRF (I don't like these two albums, but I don't think I'm alone with it) and Alexi drank less in 2015 so...
     

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