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Anyone think Derelict Herds should've been on the album?

Discussion in 'Opeth (Archived)' started by demonofthefall6469, Jul 12, 2008.

  1. demonofthefall6469

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    I think it would have been a nice burst of energy between Burden and Porcelain Heart, and as much I love the album, I would have liked one more growling track. What do you guys think?
     
  2. Nailed Reaper

    Nailed Reaper Rushan Moothaphookah

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    No, it's too different to be on the album.
     
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    Definitely!
     
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    Yeh if DH was on it instead of PH it would have been awesome.
     
  5. Lenni

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    It totally belongs on there!

    I even think it's better than Coil, Porcelain Heart and Hex Omega to be honest.
     
  6. Dante's Inferno

    Dante's Inferno Demon Of The Fall

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    Isn't variation a key theme in Opeth's style or did mean something?
     
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    Mean Machine Happy Little Boozer

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    Yeah variation is definitely important in their albums, but I agree with Nailed Reaper in that it could feel a bit out of place if included in the full album. I'm not entirely certain what it is, but it has a different feel than the rest of the material.

    I don't think it's anywhere near as good as the album material anyway though. It's a tad boring. In fact, I don't think any of the bonus tracks are anything great.
     
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    It's not more different to the rest of the album than Burden is to Heir Apparent, so I don't see a problem there.
     
  9. Luann

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    it should be
     
  10. philno

    philno New Metal Member

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    i can see similarities between burden and heir apparent. also they're both written entirely by mike, derelict herds has some parts written by per.
     
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    I think Derelict Herds can be looked at as a remnant of Ghost Reveries, in a way. It's quite different from the rest of watershed: it has no really abrupt transitions, and has lengthy groove-oriented sections, which reminds me of Ghost Reveries (Baying of the hounds, harlequin forest... beneath the mire). I think it's a pretty good song, but I like Watershed without it.
     
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    That would actually be pretty interesting in between those two songs. Hmmmmm.......it's kinda funny though. Whenever a song off of WS gets to a growling section, I enjoy it so incredibly much, because of the fact that WS has less growls than previous albums. It almost seems like a present. You wait and you wait for it, and the waiting and anticipation seems to add to the enjoyment of actually receiving it. Instead of having many songs with incredible growls, (Obviously no complaint, as I said they are incredible) you have a few songs with absolutely phenomenal growls.
    Holy shit. I need a fucking life.
     
  13. Alteredmindeath

    Alteredmindeath Wasteland Survivor

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    no I don't think there is enough in it to consider it a full blown Opeth tune.
     
  14. Detective Clarence Beauregard

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    Yes. But I can see how they thought it didn't fit. It's the same thing when Symphony X left Frontiers off The Odyssey... it just doesn't fit the album.

    I like Derelict Herds, though. However, some parts drag on for a bit too long.
     
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    horrible song imo. they should have put den ständiga resan on the album instead but that would have ruined the concept i guess
     
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    Not a bad song, but maybe a bit out of mood for WS..
     
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    It definetly doesn't fit.
     
  18. AlexGuinness

    AlexGuinness The Collector

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    Isn't it on the CD version from inside the LP?
     
  19. Lightbulb Sun

    Lightbulb Sun Losing the Skyline....

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    In my opinions, Derelict Herds is an awkward song that would break the transition. That intro is WAY too different, even for Opeth standards, to fit in.
     
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    this song has one of my favorite opeth moments btw: riff @ 2:13 is fucking jizzworthy
     

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