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Bands for grown-ups, bands for kids

Discussion in 'Dark Tranquillity' started by hyena, May 17, 2007.

  1. Belligerent

    Belligerent Greekus Urungus

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    Alot of bands lost their luster for me after my teenage years. Few would be Pearl Jam,Dave Matthews Band,Sublime. All of which I used to love when I was younger. As far as metal, Id say Metallica and Danzig.
     
  2. afz902k

    afz902k In Currents of Cobalt...

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    Maybe Nirvana for me, then.
     
  3. hyena

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    Exactly! And I like a lot of childish punk rock too. There's also nothing wrong IMO with listening to music for mere entertainment, etc; hey, I occasionally listen to techno, it's not as I can lecture anyone on very high-brow music.

    On the other hand, I was just noticing that some bands appear pretty superficial in their approach towards the world, and as one grows up the superficiality becomes apparent. I'm not saying that such bands have bad lyrics: on the contrary, frequently they have very good ones, only they maybe discuss something generic. Take typical punk rock themes: deploration of economic inequality, defiance toward authority, revolution, individualism, and partying. Or Oi! themes: working class pride, football, beer, friendship, and skinhead style. Power metal: fire, steel and all that jazz. Each of these themes (yes, even fire and steel!) can be presented in a meaningful and inspiring way, but it's never too complex, it's never too structured, and you normally know what's coming next with very little probability of being wrong. This is what I meant by "kid's stuff" - simplistic and predictable, not necessarily stupid.

    I think that rahvin's example re New Model Army as a band for grown-ups was really appropriate - here you have a band which does express a message that has not really been heard before, although themes such as the ones I mentioned above are touched upon. I completely agree with Marduk about King for a Day, which is nothing short of amazing in this department.
     
  4. solefald

    solefald Vheissu

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    well the ultimative band for not grown ups but for those who wanna stay young(er) in their inner self, I would say The Ramones. you can be old and bald but also a teenager and The Ramones`music will touch you in a certain way.
    Most Punk or Harcore bands have a huge younger community, but I think it has to do with the power and feelings they create and when youre young you have a lot of anger and fear in you and search a way to release it.

    as for a an adult band I just think about pink floyd.
     
  5. QRV

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    For kiddos:
    Rammstein
    Lullacry
    Cradle of Filth
    To / Die / For

    For adults:
    The Tiger Lillies
    16 Horsepower
    Coil
    Elend
    Laibach
    Lake of Tears
    Moonspell
    Nick Cave
    Neurosis
    Pimentola
    Tom Waits
    Ulver
    Radiohead
    Shinjuku Thief
    Sleepytime Gorilla Museum


    I guess most metal bands fall in an "in between" territory. Neither too profound nor too childish at all, and have appeal for fans of all ages.
     
  6. Gaseous Snake

    Gaseous Snake Far Beyond The Quiet

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    What is grown-up about Joe Satriani?
     
  7. hyena

    hyena counterclockwise

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    @qrv: you put rammstein in the wrong category. :p
     
  8. FatherVic

    FatherVic MasterMelon

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    I'd go for kid_metal most of powermetal stuff, Sonata Arctica, Stratovarius some others come in mind...I think rythm_wise and lyric_wise(?) there's lots to get hooked by youngsters.

    Now for adult-sort-of-ehmmm-yeah I'd go for Porcupine Tree, Katatonia, and I'm going to go the extra mile and state Opeth here...also the new Placebo stuff.

    I'd create a new term, for nuts-of-all-ages bands, much like the master Weird All Yankovic.


    fathervic (who thinks some might be wandering "is that him?")

    PD: probably, I'm not!!!
     
  9. rahvin

    rahvin keeper of the flame

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  10. QRV

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    :lol: I admit I do like some Rammstein, but hey, after listening to Laibach's Jesus Christ Superstars, everything Rammstein's done seems to come from kindergarden.
     
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    Exactly my thought. Even the + is stolen from Laibach.
     
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    Thats only cos he didn't have "shit" as a category.
     
  13. Lethe78

    Lethe78 Expired candle

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    Two bands that immediately come to mind when it comes to kid music:

    Linkin Park
    Limp Bizkit

    Two bands that immediately come to mind when it comes to adult music:

    Opeth
    Radiohead
     
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    and Sum 41
     
  15. afz902k

    afz902k In Currents of Cobalt...

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    Radiohead comes to my mind as music for teenagers who want to look cool.
     
  16. QRV

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    Then you surely haven't heard Radiohead very well.
     
  17. 6 Stringed Fingers

    6 Stringed Fingers EditablePoly 1

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    For me, nothing beats Cats on Mars by Yoko Kanno or Shishido Rumi's Fushigi Purupuru Pururin Rin! in the category of kiddiness. I'd throw in a few BGMs from various games in that section too, most notably that from Doukutsu Monogatari (Cave Story).

    As for mature sounds, DT is the most I've ever gotten. Since I'm a happy-go-lucky guy I've always failed to appreciate emotional poetry.
     
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    Then they'd know it sucks.
     
  19. QRV

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    Coming from an In Flames fan, I can ignore that comment. :p
     
  20. afz902k

    afz902k In Currents of Cobalt...

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    Actually my opinion is not directly linked to how Radiohead sounds, or their lyrics. It's just the attitudes of people who listen to Radiohead, I am aware that judging a band by its fans is quite a retarded thing to do, however, as their sound has not impressed me at all since before Hail to the Thief, and it failed to catch me after (and including) Kid A, I can live with that.

    Their best album is Pablo Honey in my opinion, so I guess you know where I'm going with that - I like it more when bands spend more time playing with their instruments than with synths and production equipment (or at least when their music gives me that impression).

    I'd say I'm more fond of ther earlier progressive alternative rock than of their subsequent more atmospheric, electronic work, perhaps with the exception of Idioteque.

    Well, all of that doesn't matter anyhow, I can't hold an informed opinion on Radiohead because I simply haven't listened to their music enough, and I don't feel like doing it either.
     

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