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Best Guitar Tone on an album

Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by Bruticus, Jul 21, 2019.

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Best Guitar tone on an album ?

  1. The first one

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  2. that Pantera one when they all dresse up as trannies and Phil sang like a bish

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  3. Iron Maiden, absolutely any Iron Maiden album, their tone was SO METAL

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  4. 1997

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  1. Bruticus

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    yes, indeed. I like that gtr sound especially when he's palm muting that intro riff. There's that tightness sound I was talking about that would usher all of metal into the 90's sound. And being a jazz-metal band, Atheist even back in 1989 managed a very nice modern (for the time) tone: clinical and dynamic.
    Globally I like the mixing in this album. Very typically first wave of dmetal, but ahead of their time with how dynamic and sparkly the gtrs sounded.
     
  2. Master_Yoda77

    Master_Yoda77 True Doom

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    I'd definitely pick the darkest and most anti-social black metal to show people who aren't into metal as to what metal sounds like.
     
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    I'm talking about musical prowess, this is exactly what I'm saying, the emphasis is often on the dark/antisocial mood not composition. Some mature educated jazz musician comes to your place, he's curious about metal, you're playing him some trve norwegian black metal lol ? There's some great music out there for sure, but a LOT of it is lingering power chords, blasts blasts blasts (the basic form too), shrieks and then a minor chord section and tremolo picking to no end.
    I'm saying it's often a very basic musical format that's formulaic and as a result quickly redundant for the hungry/curious musician who doesn't find the wealth of creativity he was hoping for but rather a rigid structure that repeats one same formula with little room to maneuver. Prog or death metal are more diverse for e.g. IMO.
     
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    Which scene would you choose then? because most of the classic Norwegian black metal bands are/were actually really good.

    edit: but we are talking about black metal, not just any kind of metal or rock music. Norwegian black metal is actually one of the most "sophisticated" scenes within black metal.

    You seem to not know what you are talking about.

    If you want to impress someone about musical prowess in metal, prog metal is the way. Still, the musicianship on Norwegian black metal is extremely good. I bet you don't even play an instrument at all.
     
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    CiG Primordial Soup of Radioactive Sewage

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    Master_Yoda77 True Doom

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    Composition and technical wankery is fucking boring. If I'm trying to show someone what metal is all about, I'm not going to throw on some stupid, spineless avant-gard free jazz technical death metal.
     
  7. Bruticus

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    Mmm well at this point of the conversation I guess it's better to respectfully agree to disagree. I DEFINITELY, definitely don't see norw black metal as any sort of reference for eager musicians, which yes I am a long time member of since you ask explicitly. Let's not get into where now I ask you whether you're a musician yourself, etc, not interesting. Obviously just the Burzum song... was quite polarizing for us two, we don't see eye to toe. Sorry, *eye to eye.

    Let's get back to tones.
    Let's see.... ooh yeah, I always liked the mixing/sound of Quebeckers Beneath the Massacre:


    The breakdown at the end 2:42. I really like that. The gtrs sound like the string is a fkn rope. Full and deep. I'm not a fan at all of those thin sounding breakdown riffs you'd hear evvvvvvverywhere circa 2008ish and forth with the unfortunate growing deathcore scene.
     
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    I wouldn't show them "the darkest and most anti-social black metal" either though. I'd throw some early Slayer on probably.
     
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    Filthy fucking tone just crushing everything in its path.
     
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    Classick HM-2 guitar tone. Cuts right through like a serial killer with a buzzsaw :kickass:
     
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    CiG Primordial Soup of Radioactive Sewage

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    Equally important Swedish guitar tone. That bass riff is one of the best ever.
     
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    ah yes the infamous all settings maxed out Swedish death metal tone. I really liked it, when I was 17.
     
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    Bring 17 year old you back.
     
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    No thx. Much prefer being an adult.
    You'll get there some day. I think.
     
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    Don't overrate yourself.
     
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    burn. :p
     
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    Bullshit. If this were true then all the Burzum and Hunger era Darkthrone clones would not be as maligned as they are. The fact is, they don't have the songwriting of those two, they emulate the sound and nothing else. Burzum is minimalistic, but not unsophisticated. You make the same mistake with Emperor - later Emperor is more flashy and musically impressive in an obvious way, but structurally I find it way more basic than the debut.

    All the pioneers in the Norwegian scene also do not sound much like each other. They were all trying to achieve similar goals in quite significantly different ways. Which is part of why they're so good.
     
  19. Oblivious Maximus

    Oblivious Maximus I am the worm

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    I think people confuse all Norwegian black metal sounding the same with there being hundreds of crappy Darkthrone and Burzum clones. Those two bands, alone, don't sound anything alike.
     
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