Yeah, before it got super casual and dumb. 2004 - 2010 (played EQ from '99 - 2004). Our guild ended up as a top 30 world guild during most of The Burning Crusade. We also didn't raid 8 hours a day, 5-7 days a week either. Initially I started out as a Shaman, and then one day created an alt Warrior for the hell of it when the instances were not working. Decided I liked taking, so I changed that to my main. Then, we ended up getting pieces for the Thunderfury before anyone even knew what they were for. One Warrior ahead of me ended up with one of the first ever (not sure exactly what order, but there were not even ten in the wild yet, and I randomly ended up with the pieces for another a few weeks later). I guess all of my luck was front-loaded, because it was awful from there on out. Anyway, I eventually tried out DPS and liked that enough that I didn't want to tank anymore. Was usually the top damage on raids for most of my time playing, and also kept up with better equipped Warriors in further progressed guilds. I guess the latest expansion is supposedly pretty good, and second best to TBC, but I'm not jumping back in now. I put too much effort into my previous guild, and I was also with the same people for many years.