EDIT: You don't have to read all this below, but could you guys give me some pointers on how to make my mix sound less anemic? I've attached it below. Thank you. ---------------------------------- Hello all, I am a new member and just wanted to inquire about something I keep hearing on all my favorite albums but have had no luck replicating in the studio. I am trying to figure out how some of these black metal bands are getting this huge cathedral sized sound on their mixes without drowning the mix in reverb or whatever. My mixes sound okay but are very 2 dimensional, and you can tell they were recorded in a bedroom. Can someone tell me how to effectively copy the ambience and massiveness of songs like these?: Dimmu Borgir - Allegiance Old Mans Child - Enslaved and Condemned Troll - Til Helvete Med Alt The Kovenant - The Sulpher Feast Naglfar - Into The Black I've also noticed that these mixes sound almost like further away. I've uploaded one of my own songs for comparison. Some of the gear I'm using: GUITAR: Jackson guitar with EMG pickups Ibanez guitar with stock pickups Randall RD5 amp Behringer tube screamer 4x12 Marshall cabinet modded with Mesa British Celestion V30 speaker (other 3 speakers are stock) SM57 & Audix D2 mics (closed mic'd in Ulrich Wild mic positions as shown by SpectreSoundStudios youtube channel) Mono summed using Behringer board (doesn't actually change the sound almost at all judging from the tests I've done) Drums: Drum samples from the Fredman Studios Brighton pack and drumagog to replace close mics (using sm57 and audix d6 on snare/kick respectively and some CAD mics on the toms, but don't end up using these mics in the mix) 2 BM800's on overheads (saving up for something better) 1 MXL R144 ribbon mic in the room (about 6 feet from the kit pointed at the kick drum) Bass: Dean Custom Zone (neon green) Bass guitar Fender Rumble 25 amp Audio Technica M8000 mic & AT2020 mic (close mic'd & compressed/saturated/eq'd) Rackmount Gear: 3 Art Pre-amps (one Pro MPA II and 2 TPS II's) Lexicon MX200 Reverb/Delay 8 channel interface (M Audio M Track 8) BBE MaxCom Compressor DBX 215 EQ Rocktron Pro GAP Behringer Autocom Pro XL Compressor Room Treatment: I have made a handful of crappy bass traps using roxul insulation & plywood and stuck them all over the room with no rhyme or reason My room is shaped super weird so it's not that easy to set these up in ideal places, however it's also not exactly cube shaped so that's something, right? DAW/plugins: Recording into Logic Express 9 on an old Mac Have a bunch of the older waves plugins (Scheps 73, Trueverb, Aphex Vintage Exciter, C4, CLA Drums, CLA-2A, EKramer FX, IDR, AudioTrack, InPhase, L1 Limiter, MannyM Delay, SSLChannel, SSL EQ, SSL Comp, SSLGChannel, Vitamin) Eventide Omnipressor (I usually apply this to my bass along with the Audio Assault Head Crusher or RM-2 plugin or else I might try the TSE BOD v2 plugin) Soundtoys (Devil-Loc, Little Plate, Little PrimalTap, Little Radiator) WA Production (SphereComp, SphereDelay, SphereQuad) Bunch of other stuff. Won't bother listing it all off, but this is some of the stuff I use the most frequently or felt was worth listing off Typical master chain: Newfangled EQuivocate, SSL Comp, Hiku, TDR Limiter 6 GE Please let me know if I can give any additional information that may be helpful, and I'm sorry for making my first post so ridiculous. I have been searching for the right tone for years and I am kind of stuck. Any help you guys can give in order to get me in the same ballpark as what I'm shooting for would be extremely appreciated. Thank you!